Anzac Test

Good luck to him (no offence Wado).

I'm also glad Soliola is starting, the guy is a beast! Still, I will never forget the time he got absolutely flattened by Wiki though, classic hit that, he was seeing stars for months

1. Pretty much the same thing
2. Lets see how Sikas goes then
3. Lukes defence isnt as good as Dene's. Which is indisputable

4. Pretty weak attempt at attacking my post, still grumpy about being plain wrong about Lance?

I'm still massaging my big balls actually. Not one of you fuckers is prepared to think outside the square and make a big call and in any case, Lance will play in the halves tonight at some stage. Just you watch and see. It's only a matter of time before he gets a starting position at stand off fuckers and I am never going to let you hear the end of it.

Matai not being good enough to be selected is not the same thing as being lost to injury you clown. Get your tongue out of his ass.

Not even close. Doesn't mean I'm not going to follow the fortunes of a Warrior though.

What time is the game? I think I'll be lucky enough to catch it here in Singapore. Go the 'Australia Network'!



gc.

7:30 AEST.

Awesome!



gc.

You're more lucky than people in Victoria. I just had a mate of mine whinge on MSN that they can't see it live in Melbourne. Delayed converage not until 1am!

Just looked on the Australia Network website and it's not on til 11:30pm. Still, you take what you can get when you're in Asia really. League is much easier to get than cricket.

Cricket channel is $39.95 (prob about NZ$45ish) per month ALONE.



gc.

the name should be changed. Its not ANZAC day anymore stupido's.

Maybe it should be the 2 weeks after ANZAC day test.
WHo really cares its all crap

stupido's bashing crap out of other stupido's in an ANZAC test not even on ANZAC day

So stupid you waed your time posting about it. Well done

Bah 'wasted' not waed

Fail.

They should get him to lead the haka even if he isn't playing.

Useless cunts.



That is all.

Gave away far too many penalties. In the first half I think Ausie scored pretty much after every penalty the kiwis gave away.

Australia were just too good. Pretty disappointing really :/

Great post. It's got a clean sweep of the big four:

Bad spelling and/or grammar? Check.
Failure in using capitalization? Check.
Factually incorrect? Check.
Nonsensical opinion? Check.

Good work, mate, well played!

This. Australia played pretty well and they are always going to be super tough to beat when ths happens. Their forwards especially all looked determined and feisty, and talk of us having dominace there were proved wildy incorrect

I was prtty errrm "jaded" by the time the Prime replay came on but it looked to me like Faalogo, Soloiel, Asotasi, Hohaia were our worst and Bronson, Halatua, Knightindale, Manu and Blair (except missing Thurston) our best.

I wont bother reigniting the half/stand off debate as/but there was clear swappig around with Benji feeding the scrum (and making 2(?) basic cock ups for auto turn overs)........... yet when we ran the line he was nearly always 2nd reciever after Fien. maybe we tried to get too tricky there

Manu is just a beast... even at this level, but it took till thr 2nd half until we hot pototoed it out to his wing, really need to find ways to find that man in even just a little bit of space 30 metres out....I beat Lockyear would know how to do it

Fein played very well in general play but makes mistakes and give away penalties. Hohaia looked disinterested and I dont recall him once scampering off to take on the line

pretty demoralising once the score was hitting 10-25+ fuckin Hodges, fuckin Folua, fuckin Inglis etc its almost like those cunts are too big to defend against

yes I know Hodges isnt particualry big for a centre

6ft3 and 100kgs ... I would say he is pretty big.

Interesting....I thought he was like 95kg. I guess 100kg isnt exactly monsterous either way

was listening to Duanne Mann on Radio Sport just before and he completly bagged Fein in general play so perhaps I got that wrong, I just noticed his defence was good a lot

he also thought Faalogo waa good but thinks Kearny made the mistake of keeping him on too long, as well as Blair who was supurb until he had that defensive lapse. Makes sesne as I kept looking out for Sika but I dont think he even came on until the 2nd half

Just found yesterdays Super Sport which lists Hodges @ 96kg,= scource of my notion. Not sure what the truth is though. Prob depends which end of the season he is weighed

I hate the Anzac test.

Instead of watching league and getting constant heartbreak, guys..

WATCH THE CHIEFS RIP IT UP TONIGHT!

Pretty well summed up by all except I thought Soliola played well as well. Australia are just too good and you can NOT give them chances like we did. Them scoring just before and just after halftime killed us more than anything else. Also when you get chances, like we did in the first half, we gotta convert! Australia made something like 30 more tackles than us in the first half, the score should have been a lot closer.

Ah well. It's the same old story really. We get a week to put combinations together and as usual our prep was disrupted by injury and suspension. Until we get a better build up, we'll never do well. When we go into camp and have the time to build combos etc, like we do at the end of the year, we're a fuck of a lot more competitive. That's why we've only ever won one anzac test ever.

Same old fuckin story.

Have Aussie been in camp though? No. Stop making excuses. They've had just as much time as the Kiwis had.

Stop talking out of ignorance Vadz. The Aussies picked an all Queensland backline which have played together for the last 3/4 years and they didn't get any disruptions to their prep with injuries or suspension.

Now run along Beta Boy.

Yeah Fien was pretty shit. But then again he's only in the Kiwis/Warriors cos we have nobody else better. Have we produced even one truly worldclass/premiership quality halfback since Stacey Jones? Benji Marshall is a fucking freak with the ball in hand - him and Nightingale were the standout backs and the only ones that looked dangerous from what I saw (first 60 minutes). Didn't see much of the second 1/2 but Soliola had a shocker in the first. Adam Blair up front had already made 11 hitups in the first 20 mins, brutal

Australia are still the dominant force in rugby league, they could field about 3 teams each of which would be stronger than us player-for-player minus only a few positions.

??? So if we'd picked the same backline as had played for the Kiwis last 3/4 years we wouldn't have an excuse.

The fact is that this Aussie team has had exactly the same amount of cohesive training as the Kiwis in the last few months: none. Stop making excuses. If the All Blacks ever lost 38-10 there would be no end of inquiries and other reviews. The Kiwis are pathetic. They've lost 7 out of the last 10 games they've played the Aussies since 2004.

Agree with the rest of your post completely, but this is a bit harsh/off the mark. International/test rugby league is a joke in general as Australia are so completely dominant, and beating them in the WC final is a massive achievement/hardly pathetic.

Out of interest, how many times have the Wallabies beaten the ABs since 2004?

Seriously. Stop talking out of ignorance Beta Boy. You don't know what you're talking about.

You taking the piss?

Heard of actually arguing the issue?

You continually turn these things into personal attacks. Deal with the issues.

Has Australia had more time together than New Zealand? No. And even if it had, is that because of New Zealand's own fault, or external issues? Because if it's the former then it's no excuse either.

The fact is that our players and their players have been playing NRL footie for the same amount of time. Some of their players are in the same NRL team, and have a better "gel", but using that as an excuse is really scraping the bottom of the barrel, and it could then be said "well why not just choose the Warriors backline" (which has pretty much been done anwyay).

The expectations for the Warriors/Kiwis are so pathetically low that their constant thrashings are continually excused. You compare the way a 5pt loss for the ABs is treated to a 28pt loss by the Kiwis; much more gnashing of teeth. The Kiwis won a World Cup, that was brilliant, but it was ONE GAME. The rest of the time, they lose. Constantly.

Yet people seek to somehow portray them as the equals of the ABs, the winningest team in international rugby history. A team that gets abused even when it wins, if it doesn't "win pretty."

What's sad is that this same attitude is seeping across to Super rugby (not sure why), where the pathetic performances of the Blues are given free passage. We've lost the ability to criticise anybody but the ABs in NZ, it seems. Hell even our IPL flops aren't even hammered.

Sportsmen are out there to do a job. If they don't do it, give them accurate criticism. Same as a barman, butcher, lumberjack, or lawyer.

2004: 1:1
2005: 2:0 NZ
2006: 3:0 NZ
2007: 1:1
2008: 3:1 NZ

So, 10:3

Here's an issue Vadz: Fuck Off.

I don't debate with people who don't know what they're talking about.

To clarify my annoyance. The only time you participate in discussion about league is to troll and bait the regular posters Vadz. Similarly here, all you are doing is using this as an opportunity to slip the knife in and have a go at league and the regular league posters.

So no. I am not going to give you the satisfaction so kindly fuck off back to the rugby threads kthanxbye.

We don't run straigh or on the angle when attacking.....

Seem to go sideways and even back at times with little penetration. The Aussies send three into every hit up too which works very well for them.

So similar to the Kiwis win/loss record versus Australia then. Yet nobody would call the Wallabies a "pathetic" sports team would they?

Nobody seriously tries to "portray [the Kiwis] as the equals of the ABs". League is basically an Australian national sport with a NZ connection (and a tiny following in the UK). International/test games are third in importance after the NRL and State of Origin

And the pathetic performances of the Blues etc aren't given free passage - people are switching in droves to the better game - league.

Yeah you know the Kiwis/Warriors are fucked when they start playing completely flat and pushing offloads to flat-footed players with nowhere to go. Been happening for years..

ANZAC is a thing, that just happens to have a day after it...

Australia New Zealand Army Core, it's not called the ANZAC "day" test, just ANZAC.

someones stupido

Some really good points here, when the aussies are running great lines with monsters like Inglis etc they appear pretty much unstoppable....which is fine, I mean...... there is no solution to stopping this, but what we need to do exactly the same thing back to them. But with Solilel/Ropati/Hohaia/Kinightingdale not appearing to know each other play..... OR how to connect with Benjis brilliant but rather unique style, this was never going to happen. Hence our disjointed attack that produced a nowhere good enough 12 points


vadz...comparing expectations of the AB's to the Kiwis to ridiculous. Maybe some trainspotter can provide accurate stats..... but there must be 10-13 Kangaroos eligible NRL players for every kiwi eligible NRL player. The AB's prob enjoy similair stats over nearly all the other int rugby sides. (except England whose stats as I underdstand are skewed by the large amount of golden oldie rugby played over there) So yeah...back in your cage, your arguement sucks DUCY?

Not gonna pretend to know where we went wrong as I was beyond hammered, but f*ck I'm sick of the Kiwis getting so hyped up and then suffering 25+ point defeats.

Had a good yarn and chugged back a few cigs with Stacey though, silver lining and all that innit

Vadz, stop being a cunt.

I think in the end the scoreline flattered the aussies. We werent as bad as the scoreline suggest and we were in the game for alot longer than I thought we would have been given that we didnt translate any of that early ball into points.
The try where Thurston did his trademark dummy, and the try where Hodges saw the gap and ran for it then stepped to where the defense hadnt slid across to were ones that realy put us on the back foot.
Also someone needs to teach Jermoe Ropati how to mark up, there were 2 tries they scored down his side where he came in when he wasnt needed. Sure he was defenending outside Marshall who isnt the greatest defender but theres no need to come off of your man the way he did, especially considering I thought Marshall had a fairly decent defensive game.
I thought Nightingale had a great game at fullback, returned the ball really well and didnt make any mistakes.

We haven't won an Anzac test since 1998!

Is it suicide playing a test match vs the Aussies pre (or post) Origin? It's basically their rep season and they're used to switching on around this time of year.

We seem to have a better record playing them end of year in a series.

Or am I making excuses?

Nah, I tihnk there's definitely something to be said for scrapping the Anzac test. I read something about it in the paper this weekend regarding the way it's hurting the kiwi "brand" (urgh, i fucking hate that word ).

The truth is the Kiwis do seem to gain more from the extended preparation period of end of year tests compared to the Australians... maybe it's cos they can just rely on the individual brilliance of their backs?

*grumble grumble*

Haha, I heard about that.

I reckon the NZRL headquarters do a nice hatchet job with brand themselves TBH.

Streamed it on Setanta here. Frame rate was a little low but it was a good stream.

Pretty simple stuff the Kiwis did wrong: wearing out the forwards in the first 20 mins then failing to utilise the big outside backs to give them a reprieve. Also saw the wee fellas doing hit ups rather than trying to out-manoeuvre the tired aussie forwards late in the first half.
We barely saw the outside backs in the first half meaning we wasted a lot of decent position and failed to capitalise on all that attack.