Anyone still on the fence heading into the election?

Seems to me everyone here's made up their mind?

Both sides have made this a pretty polarising election.
National got a bit of a gift in the budget gaffe (whatever side you're on that's the biggest balls-up I ever seen, setting expectations like that - Mike Munro or someone should have been sacked for that) and it's been all on since then.

So anyone NOT made the call?

I am most definitely on the fence. Actually im not even on the fence im just siting back watching the mess that is national vs labour.

bullllllllllllllllsht.

I still can't decide between Progressives or Labour.

I might even vote NZ First to ensure Winston gets back into the house!

goodness that must be painful! now don't wiggle around too much as i don't want to have to come over there and remove a picket from your unmentionables!

I'm on the fence.

I have no idea who to vote for.

I've voted already, so yeah I've decided

LABOUR and greens


That makes Labour with a conscience (the little greenie who keeps reminding them about the environment!

I have no idea so prob wont do it in the end

Still on the fence.

Can't stand the thought of voting for National or Labour. Both a bunch of lying pricks.

Its either the Greens or NZ First. Problem is the Greens have a retarded immigration policy and NZ first doesn't seem to do fuck all to effect anyone under the age of 60

Giant Doosh or Turd Sandwich? These are the questions facing our generation

is the petrol claim winston was making going to affect us much? Ive forgotten what the article said.

tending towards the greens with my party vote.
or NZ first if they lose the immigration policy.

I'm not sure what you are referring to? Could you elaborate pls?

how about running another election poll? Sticky it to the top. "Who are you voting for now?"

It would be interesting to see if there is much of a difference from the previous one.

Yeah I'm leaning towards the greens though I will have to check out a lot more of their policies.

Probably Greens, might change my mind but i doubt it.

I said to mum as a joke that id vote greens, she said i better sell my car then>

What the hell did that mean do they not want cars anymore or something>
My brother thinks helen shld stay If its not broken dont worry about it and that Brash is a dick, Dad said he wld give someone else a go so will vote Brash>

The thing is they all say stuff and prob dont deliver anyways.

I think the majors are Taxe Immigration Students and needing to keep our professionals here instead of them going to other countries

But hey what would i know!

yay for greens! go for the smart people that care.

He certainly keeps them honest, we just don't want him as PM :p

yeah i still dont know....after working out nationals tax savings for me im starting to think its not a bad idea, but im also leaving the country next year so that doesnt really play a part...

There’s still a large sector of “centrist swing voters” who have not decided who they will ultimately vote for yet. ~ I fall into this category.

However it seems to me that these people will decide the fate of the election as most others have already decided who they are voting for and things are looking fairly even at the polls. If one was to draw on game theory it should now be the target area of the two main parties’s to focus their strategies towards winning support from the political centre.

Which ever party performs well here is guaranteed an election victory in my opinion.

The Greens will halve the defence vote.

A vote for the Greens is a vote to allow dictators and murderers to have their sway around the globe.

for my party vote im still undecided between National and NZ First..

Like Damien said, if NZ First dropped their immigration policy.

NZ First do a shit load more for someone like me about to set up my first business than both Labour and National.

word. Let's defend or country with hugs, and since the greens also want to halt any more spending on our national roads, lets make the horse and cart New Zealand’s preferred means of transport.

Labour & Tizard - I say if its not broke don't fix it, or something along those lines.
Helen beats brash by a very VERY large long shot as PM. I'm sorry but that man is an ASSHAT and i cannot bear the thought of him leading the country.

so yeah, no fences to sit on for me

go pop over to america where you can have your whorey polluting suv then, id rather stay in nz matey. anyway they want to invest money into public transport and rail.

where the fuck are people getting this horse and cart shit from??

The Greens on top of their lack of respect for defense will impose a carbon penalty tax on top of already high petrol prices which is sure to escalate stagflation.

Their energy policy in respect to joining all the generating networks into a single grid is an unnecessary and expensive joke likely to cost us Millions of dollars.

They lack understanding and have no clear set agenda on how they will manage fiscal and monetary pressures facing the nation; a lot of their rhetoric seems aimed at small local businesses (micro economics).

Their eco bent environmentalists and not economists = bad for the stability of the entire nation, especially the business sectors who are competing with foreign markets like China and India.

i dont know how to persuade you people that money isnt the most important thing in the world.

What people fail to realise is that voting for a minority party like the greens isn't really a vote for the things Rival has listed above because they will never have enough power in parliament to push most of it through. Its more a vote for a social and environmental conscience for our government which can't really be a bad thing, can it?

exactly, they will keep the government thinking about those things, but will never actually be running the country by themselves.

im most likely to vote labour in a "lesser of two evils" steez

i'd like to vote for a 3rd party but:

a] cant be arsed investigating their policies properly

b] the nagging feeling that a vote for them is in essence a vote for national

i liked nationals latest election promise!

"labour are going to upgrade the motorway system in ten years! ok we'll do it in eight!"

descending to petty one upmanship is most unimpressive

Yet you are tied to money and the economy directly through your very survival through daily needs being met. Survival is important for our species so why condemn a tool that allows us to decrease poverty and allow more of us to survive?

I would like to see someone come up with a better method, and no barter does not qualify.

Money = market efficiency.

we do need alot more than just money to survive, ie the environment

money will only be a tool which decreases poverty if we use it to decrease inequality, which the greens are for.

Which is why they form coalitions with other major parties, where the other major party has to make concessions so that the Greens will support them in other key areas. Some of their polices can still become implemented especially with Labour as a partner.



Yes it can. See comments above on carbon penalty tax as an example.

just buy a goddam hybrid car if your so worried about petrol prices

Yet poverty has been decreasing since the rise of capitalism and the industrial revolution constantly increasing the standard of living if one was to look at History.

Inequality is natural, however in some circumstances regulation is required to reduce poverty yes, in other situations regulation can create more problems, you have to strike a balance with such notions as triple bottom line accounting etc. However managing the economy is relative to many other economic pressures which Greens supporters are ignorant of.

This is a major indication of your lack of understanding.

Do you have any idea how many industries (including transport) are tied to petrol costs either directly or indirectly.

Do you even know what stagflation is and why it happened in the 70’s?

Ever wonder about how it will create infaltionry pressures, creating frictional unemployment and greater poverty?


It does not appear so...

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