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It would be interesting to know how many here are pro-abortion but anti stem cell research? (and various other experiments done on foetuses and embryos)

Also do you see a difference between when the embryo/foetus is originally aborted and then used for science, or when they are created solely for the purpose of experimentation?
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I think purely breeding for experimental reasons is wrong, but to carry it out on an unwanted foetus is acceptable in my eyes.
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Not anti stem cell reasearch, though I do have some reservations - ie nature of the research etc. but not the useage of foetuses and embryos etc.

No problem with using aborted foetuses but don't like nor support the creation of foetuses for this use alone
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Agree with both of the above comments (Bob D and girlvybz).

And for the record I'm not pro-abortion; I'm pro-choice. Is there a difference; maybe, maybe not... Razz
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Yeah I hate it when people use the term "pro-abortion". How could anyone be "pro-abortion". Do they go to birthing clinics and hold up signs saying "abort your baby now!" or something?

If you mean "pro allowing a woman to decide what she will do with her own body and the organism growing off it... then yes I am pro that...

And I'm pro stem cell research as well. I'm pro any research that furthers human science.

I'm not opposed in any way to creating foetuses to do this...

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fire_engine said:
Yeah I hate it when people use the term "pro-abortion". How could anyone be "pro-abortion". Do they go to birthing clinics and hold up signs saying "abort your baby now!" or something?

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I agree with everyone else.... might as well use them for something useful eh?
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Agreed.

An unwanted foetus being used for the good of human science and development is acceptable to me.
BUT, growing a foetus just for the sake of chopping it up and picking at it at 4-16weeks old, that is not right. there are no accidents when breeding foetus's for experimentation, they go into the category of 'inconsiderate and heartless' people that are likely to use abortion as their ONLY form of contraception.
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I'm all for stem cell research.
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girlvybz said:
there are no accidents when breeding foetus's for experimentation, they go into the category of 'inconsiderate and heartless' people that are likely to use abortion as their ONLY form of contraception.


Where on earth did this come from? How do you draw any connection at all between someone doing something morally questionable for scientific research and someone using abortion as birth control?

Also, from what I heard the process for creating these foetus' for brain stem growth is different to contraception and they don't actually create a foetus at all...

I'm not quite sure exactly how it works though.

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Perhaps that didn't make sense. I meant that people who use only abortion as a contraceptive are careless and heartless as they know they will be 100% premediating the future of an unwanted foetus. Scientific researchers breed foetus's (however they do it), knowing that is unwanted and won't survive, however, I do realise that it is beneficial and has a huge significance to the development of humankind, I don't argue the fact. They are in different catagories as one is beneficial and one is not, yet it is still demned to me as heartless and detached.

If you don't know how your example works 'exactly', don't use it as a an example at all.
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I disagree with growing an embryo solely for research but think it might be ok to use an aborted one for certain types of research obviously with the permision of the woman who had it aborted. I would hope that there were very strict guidelines about what sort of experiments could be done and hope that the guidelines were strictly enforced i.e no cloning to be done from the embryo etc.
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Both are ok but it also depends on what the research is rather than what its done on. I dont think breeding as it is now is right unless they can find another way to produce stem cells without a feotus being actually produced.
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In the UK they are only allowed to use embryoes up to 9(?) days old. After that they are considered foetuses. Can't remember the reason but its to do with a point at which the embryo creates particular types of cells I think.