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http://www.nzherald.co.nz/entertainment/news/article.cfm?c_id=1501119&objectid=10740529


my Winehouse, the beehived soul-jazz diva whose self-destructive habits overshadowed a distinctive musical talent, has been found dead on Saturday in her London home, police said.

She was 27.

Winehouse shot to fame in 2006 with the album "Back to Black," whose blend of jazz, soul, rock and classic pop was a global hit.

It won five Grammys and made Winehouse - with her black beehive hairdo and old-fashioned sailor tattoos - one of music's most recognizable stars.

But her personal life, with its drug and alcohol abuse, eating disorders and destructive relationships, soon took over her career.

Police confirmed that a 27-year-old female was pronounced dead at the home in Camden Square northern London; the cause of death was not immediately known.

London Ambulance Services said Winehouse had died before the two ambulance crews it sent arrived at the scene.

Singer and actress Kelly Osbourne, who helped Winehouse check into a drug addiction treatment facility in 2008, was one of many who grieved for the singer on Twitter.


"I cant even breath right now im crying so hard i just lost 1 of my best friends. i love you forever Amy and will never forget the real you!" she tweeted.

The singer's father, Mitch Winehouse, had arrived in New York this weekend to prepare for his US performing debut on Monday night at the Blue Note jazz club, but upon receiving news of his daughter's death was heading back home to London to be with his family, his publicist Don Lucoff said.

An ambulance could be seen parked beneath the trees outside her London home, and the whole street was cordoned off by police tape. Officers kept onlookers away from the scene.

Last month, Winehouse cancelled her European comeback tour after she swayed and slurred her way through barely recognizable songs in her first show in the Serbian capital of Belgrade.

Booed and jeered off stage, she flew home and her management said she would take time off to recover.

Winehouse was last publicly seen on at a London concert on Wednesday when she joined her goddaughter Dionne Bromfield on stage.

In that impromptu appearance, Winehouse danced with Bromfield and encouraged the audience to buy her album, before leaving the stage.

"I didn't go out looking to be famous," Winehouse told the Associated Press when "Back to Black" was released. "I'm just a musician."

But in the end, the music was overshadowed by fame, and by Winehouse's demons.

Tabloids lapped up the erratic stage appearances, drunken fights, stints in hospital and rehab clinics. Performances became shambling, stumbling train wrecks, watched around the world on the internet.

Born in 1983 to Mitch Winehouse, taxi driver, and his pharmacist wife Janis, Winehouse grew up in the north London suburbs, and was set on a showbiz career from an early age.

When she was 10, she and a friend formed a rap group, Sweet 'n' Sour - Winehouse was Sour - that she later described as "the little white Jewish Salt 'n' Pepa."

She attended the Sylvia Young Theatre School, a factory for British music and acting moppets, later went to the Brit School, a performing arts academy in the "Fame" mould, and was originally signed to "Pop Idol" svengali Simon Fuller's 19 Management.

But Winehouse was never a packaged teen star, and always resisted being pigeonholed.

Her jazz-influenced 2003 debut album, "Frank," was critically praised and sold well in Britain. It earned Winehouse an Ivor Novello songwriting award, two Brit nominations and a spot on the shortlist for the Mercury Music Prize.

But Winehouse soon expressed dissatisfaction with the disc, saying she was "only 80 per cent behind" the album.

"Frank" was followed by a slump during which Winehouse broke up with her boyfriend, suffered a long period of writer's block and, she later said, smoked a lot of marijuana.

"I had writer's block for so long," she said in 2007. "And as a writer, your self-worth is literally based on the last thing you wrote. .. I used to think, 'What happened to me?'

"At one point it had been two years since the last record and (the record company) actually said to me, 'Do you even want to make another record?' I was like, 'I swear it's coming.' I said to them, 'Once I start writing I will write and write and write. But I just have to start it."'

The album she eventually produced was a sensation.

Released in Britain in the fall of 2006, "Back to Black" brought Winehouse global fame. Working with producers Mark Ronson and Salaam Remi and soul-funk group the Dap-Kings, Winehouse fused soul, jazz, doo-wop and, above all, a love of the girl-groups of the early 1960s with lyrical tales of romantic obsession and emotional excess.

"Back to Black" was released in the United States in March 2007 and went on to win five Grammy awards, including song and record of the year for "Rehab."

Music critic John Aizlewood attributed her trans-Atlantic success to a fantastic voice and a genuinely original sound.

"A lot of British bands fail in America because they give America something Americans do better - that's why most British hip-hop has failed," he said. "But they won't have come across anything quite like Amy Winehouse."

Winehouse's rise was helped by her distinctive look - black beehive of hair, thickly lined cat eyes, girly tattoos - and her tart tongue.

She was famously blunt in her assessment of her peers, once describing Dido's sound as "background music - the background to death" and saying of pop princess Kylie Minogue, "she's not an artist ... she's a pony."

The songs on "Black to Black" detailed breakups and breakdowns with a similar frankness. Lyrically, as in life, Winehouse wore her heart on her sleeve.

"I listen to a lot of '60s music, but society is different now," Winehouse said in 2007. "I'm a young woman and I'm going to write about what I know."

Even then, Winehouse's performances were sometimes shambolic, and she admitted she is "a terrible drunk." She acknowledged struggling with eating disorders and told a newspaper that she had been diagnosed as manic depressive but refused to take medication. Soon accounts of her erratic behaviour, cancelled concerts and drink- and drug-fuelled nights began to multiply.

Photographs caught her unsteady on her feet or vacant-eyed, and she appeared unhealthily thin, with scabs on her face and marks on her arms.

There were embarrassing videos released to the world on the internet. One showed an addled Winehouse and Babyshambles singer Pete Doherty playing with newborn mice. Another, for which Winehouse apologized, showed her singing a racist ditty to the tune of a children's song.

Winehouse's managers went to increasingly desperate lengths to keep the wayward star on the straight and narrow. Before the June concert in Belgrade, her hotel was stripped of booze. It did no good, and the concert was painful to watch.

Though she was often reported to be working on new material, fans got tired of waiting for the much-promised followup to "Back to Black."

Occasional bits of recording saw the light of day. Her rendition of The Zutons' "Valerie" was a highlight of producer Mark Ronson's 2007 album "Version," and she recorded the pop classic "It's My Party" for the 2010 Quincy Jones album "Q: Soul Bossa Nostra."

But other recording projects with Ronson, one of the architects of the success of "Back to Black," came to nothing.

She also had run-ins with the law. In April 2008, Winehouse was cautioned by police for assault after she slapped a man during a raucous night out.

The same year she was investigated by police, although not charged, after a tabloid newspaper published a video that appeared to show her smoking crack cocaine.

In 2010, Winehouse pleaded guilty to assaulting a theatre manager who asked her to leave a family Christmas show because she'd had too much to drink. She was given a fine and a warning to stay out of trouble by a judge who praised her for trying to clean up her act.

In May 2007 in Miami, she married music industry hanger-on Blake Fielder-Civil, but the honeymoon was brief. That November, Fielder-Civil was arrested for an attack on a pub manager the year before. Fielder-Civil later pleaded guilty to assaulting barman James King and then offering him 200,000 pounds (US$400,000) to keep quiet about it.

Winehouse stood by "my Blake" throughout his trial, often blowing kisses at him from the court's public gallery and wearing a heart-shaped pin labelled "Blake" in her hair at concerts. But British newspapers reported extramarital affairs while Fielder-Civil was behind bars.

They divorced in 2009.

Winehouse's health often appeared fragile. In June 2008 and again in April 2010, she was taken to hospital and treated for injuries after fainting and falling at home.

Her father said she had developed the lung disease emphysema from smoking cigarettes and crack, although her spokeswoman later said Winehouse only had "early signs of what could lead to emphysema."

She left the hospital to perform at Nelson Mandela's 90th birthday concert in Hyde Park in June 2008, and at the Glastonbury festival the next day, where she received a rousing reception but scuffled with a member of the crowd. Then it was back to a London clinic for treatment, continuing the cycle of music, excess and recuperation that marked her career.

- AP
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a little over shadowed by events in Norway and probably no surprise to those expecting it, her life had a tragic spiralling downward trajectory
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OMG AMY NO
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Inevitable really.

She gets to join the 27 club now...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/27_Club

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"It's important to note many musicians have died who weren't 27 at the time" - CNN


Yawn. Was inevitable. None gives a fuck about regular drunk junkie fuckups, why do they care about celeb drunk junie fuckups?
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Night Rider said:
a little over shadowed by events in Norway and probably no surprise to those expecting it, her life had a tragic spiralling downward trajectory


overshadowed by events in Norway?... someone obviously forgot to tell all the people in my facebook livefeed and twitter.
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I don't know whats sadder - the passing of such a talent... or the vultures continuing to feed upon her corpse

RIP Amy
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Billy Bragg said:

It's not age that Hendrix, Jones, Joplin, Morrison, Cobain and Amy have in common — it's drug abuse, sadly.
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Tragic news far more deserving of mass attention ...

http://www.guardian.co.uk/society/2011/jul/17/the-rape-of-men
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wow thats a tragic and fucked up story onehappy Sad
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Yeah it was a little hard to get to sleep after reading that
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I'm still under my desk

dnt


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OneHappy said:
Tragic news far more deserving of mass attention ...

http://www.guardian.co.uk/society/2011/jul/17/the-rape-of-men[/quote]

Oh god thats awful Sad I feel sick living in a world where this happens.
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Read that a few days ago, awful stuff.


And yet still, we live in a world where prison rape is a punchline......

Edit: Or, a world where that regurgitated story about the Russian woman taking a robber hostage and using him as a sex slave is placed in the "Funny" or "Weird News" pages. If that was a male holding a female hostage for days of rape, it would be a very different reaction wouldn't it?
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Growing respect for Brand after reading that tbh.
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He does seem to be a bit wiser than he is funny tbh.

Although given his god botherer status I have to temper my respect for his intellect.

Wink

gc.
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fuck brand - good read but come on he's still a dick
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Supamaorifulla said:
Although given his god botherer status


Really Shocked Didn't know..
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Yeah mate.

http://www.newstatesman.com/religion/2011/04/richard-dawkins-br-god

Pretty 'new age' obviously, but still.

Neutral

gc.
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Camden was insane on Saturday night after she died....

Last year some friends were hanging out drinking at one of the pubs around the corner from her house. She wandered in with her bouncer, enquired as to whether they had any drugs she could have and upon being declined she went to the bathroom then left. Smile
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Supamaorifulla said:
Yeah mate.

http://www.newstatesman.com/religion/2011/04/richard-dawkins-br-god

Pretty 'new age' obviously, but still.

Neutral

gc.


Haha, that is a pretty fucking loose use of the term God-botherer, bro; I must be a fully-fledged God-molesterer in your eyes Laughing Laughing
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"Russell Brand" said:
I'm glad Jemima Khan asked me to contribute to this issue of the New Statesman as it (at last) gives me the opportunity to prove the existence of God. You may think me unqualified for a task that has baffled the finest theologians, philosophers and physicists since the dawn of time but don't worry, I've been unqualified for every job I've ever embarked on...


This gave me actual lols. If I ever meet the man a high five is coming his way!
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from twitter:

Rupert Murdoch says he has been touched by all the messages left on Amy Winehouse's phone.
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heh I was thinking that samne thing as what TthHF said smf. Transcendel meditation is not a religion Smile

In fact...I think you should give it a try, you miserable cynical old cunt Very Happy


Music
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oops at my spelling and grr at no editing
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Meditation is awesome but has nothing to do with Gods, souls etc.
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as religion is fantasy land I think anything including unicorns are all ok

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bob daktari said:
from twitter:

Rupert Murdoch says he has been touched by all the messages left on Amy Winehouse's phone.


Gold, fucking gold!!! Laughing Laughing
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The Maestro said:
heh I was thinking that samne thing as what TthHF said smf. Transcendel meditation is not a religion Smile


Umm, he says God exists, in the article Razz What more do you nits want?
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Pechora said:
The Maestro said:
heh I was thinking that samne thing as what TthHF said smf. Transcendel meditation is not a religion


Umm, he says God exists, in the article. What more do you nits want?


Exactly!

I clearly have no beef with meditation. Fix up.

Rolling Eyes

gc.
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He does say that, but I think the article reads more about his defending spirituality than religion
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smf was referencing the article as proof of Brand's religious beliefs, which the article clearly provides. Nobody said anything about the spirituality part except you guys Razz
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Brand himself says plenty about the spirituality part...in the article Wink


Music
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"I'm not religious, but I'm spiritual." I like to reply with "I'm not honest, but you're interesting!"
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Article talks about two things, one of which is irrelevant for this discussion. News at 11? Razz
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What is the other thing the article discusses?
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The fact that he's religious is one thing, and details about his spiritual belief is another. I asked about his being religious, and smf provided proof. No idea why anyone is having issues with that heh.
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Poor Amy.
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Supamaorifulla said:
Pechora said:
The Maestro said:
heh I was thinking that samne thing as what TthHF said smf. Transcendel meditation is not a religion


Umm, he says God exists, in the article. What more do you nits want?


Exactly!

I clearly have no beef with meditation. Fix up.

Rolling Eyes

gc.


Haha my initial call remains; that's a pretty loose call. Nonetheless, the term "transcendental" equates with a search for something outside scientific norms, so that has to be hated surely?

But let's continue on in an entirely inappropriate thread when we should all be expressing our sadness at the loss of a wonderful singer and person, from reports I've heard...

Is there any proof, logical, mathematical, philosophical, or otherwise, that dispels the pre-matter God the horrible cunt mentions? Or are we just agreeing on facts which are scientifically agreed upon, and now simply arguing facts which are currently unknown yet happen to lend weight to your agenda? blower
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TtheHF said:
Is there any proof, logical, mathematical, philosophical, or otherwise, that dispels the pre-matter God the horrible cunt mentions? Or are we just agreeing on facts which are scientifically agreed upon, and now simply arguing facts which are currently unknown yet happen to lend weight to your agenda? blower


Laughing wat.

SMF pointed out he's religious, I expressed surprise, SMF directed me to an article which backed up his claim. That's all that's happened here. Why on earth are you going on about God's existence now? Defensive much? Razz
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This is ridiculous.

Laughing

gc.
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Im not really sure, but I think what ThHF is pointing out how ridiculous it is that you guys opinion of someone like Russell can be completely reversed once you discover his belief system is not the same as yours

I dont belive in God, but I accept there is a chance I could be wrong. Is it not possible that evolution and a higher power could operate seperate and independant of each other? How can you entirely dismiss that possibility?

Its one thing to declare yourself non-believers..... quite another to blanket categorise all believers/spiritual people as raving god fearing lunatics and worthy of derision. You guys anti-religion pontifications borders on the hysterical. In fact...Im pretty sure thats the real reason you dont like Kristian Inu smf

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resist said:
"I'm not religious, but I'm spiritual." I like to reply with "I'm not honest, but you're interesting!"


Whats the goal here? To come across as a total bigot and not get laid much? Yep keep doing that then


Music
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jesus wept, Amy is dead and youse chaps are discussing faith cause of brand

take a look at yourselves

show some respect and discuss music, or drugs or at least something she enjoyed
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The Maestro said:
Im not really sure, but I think what ThHF is pointing out how ridiculous it is that you guys opinion of someone like Russell can be completely reversed once you discover his belief system is not the same as yours


For fuck's sake. Go back and read what I actually said. I did not deride him, I did not ridicule him - in fact it was about as soft a distinction as could be made on the subject.

>_<

gc.
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ahhhh I can almost hear smf and Yakshas brains belligerantly whirring and fingers furiously a click-clacking from here. Not long now till I get berated......


Very Happy
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You tempered your respect for his intellect...thats pretty brutal Shocked


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Music
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The Maestro said:
Im not really sure, but I think what ThHF is pointing out how ridiculous it is that you guys opinion of someone like Russell can be completely reversed once you discover his belief system is not the same as yours


It's not about reversing my opinion of someone with a different belief system; it's about this specific belief system Razz If I found out he was a buddhist, then my opinion of him wouldn't change too much. But believing in magical men in the sky (with the current level of evidence we have) isn't an intelligent thing to do; so obviously it affects my opinion of his intelligence? Confused He came across as smarter than that, thus my surprise.

Maestro said:
I dont belive in God, but I accept there is a chance I could be wrong. Is it not possible that evolution and a higher power could operate seperate and independant of each other? How can you entirely dismiss that possibility?


I'm not dismissing the possibility at all? He said he believes in God. That belief is retarded, regardless of what is logically possible. My comments are directed at his belief; they're not speaking to the existence of God at all.
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This thread is retarded.