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Jamie White v Grant Robertson Live @ Asta

Jamie White v Grant Robertson 10-11.30

Cosmos - Take Me With You [Instrumental mix]
Deadrat6 - Printing Russia
Glenn Morrison - No Sudden Moves
Shaveer - Finished
Mark Mendez - Beneath You
Ugo Lucchese - Secondo
Luke Dzierzek - Identity [King Unique remix]
Andrea Doria v LXR - The Beauty Of Silence [Inpetto full vox mix]
D.O.N.S - The Nighttrain [Nick Terranova remix]
Tricky Disco - Tricky Disco [The Martin Brothers remix]
Arno Cost & Norman Doray - Apocalypse [Sebastien Leger remix]
The Muttonheads - Ready [Manuel De La Mare mash]
Pryda - Sweet Genesis
Purple Code - The Rising [Deadmau5 remix]
Pryda - Remember
Funkagenda - What The F**k
Danny Marshall - Touch You

We recorded this set, which will be avaliable as a promo cd, Jamie White v Grant Robertson Live @ Asta, soon!
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Grant R said:
...D.O.N.S - The Nighttrain [Nick Terranova remix]


You like that one? I thought it was utterly terrible... must have another listen.

Also - is this a demo or are you just giving away bootlegged CDs for promotional purposes? Not that it matters much but advertising the fact could attract APRA attention which you probably don't want.

R
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RobW said:
Grant R said:
...D.O.N.S - The Nighttrain [Nick Terranova remix]


You like that one? I thought it was utterly terrible... must have another listen.

Also - is this a demo or are you just giving away bootlegged CDs for promotional purposes? Not that it matters much but advertising the fact could attract APRA attention which you probably don't want.

R


It's an average tune on it's own, but in the scheme of things, it fitted well into the set as a whole, and sounded great Smile

And it's a demo cd Smile for promoters/djs.
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2008 sees Grant Robertson team up with Jamie White to play fresh innovative sets in a scene which is increasingly becoming uniform and stale in terms of musical direction. Grant & Jamie's sets look to push a new sound on the Auckland massive, drawing upon inspirations from progressive, techno, trance, and progressive electro, and trouse. This fresh take on Djing in Auckland is something to keep an eye out for.

RIGHT CLICK AND SAVE AS. - 1Hour 30mins - 130MB - 192 BITRATE.

http://www.nzrave.com/mixes/20080118-jamie_white_and_grant_robertson-live_at_asta-192k.mp3

You can next hear us at Incline Events pres. VACCINE feat. Greg Downey @ Space, 1st March
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Grant R said:
...a scene which is increasingly becoming uniform and stale in terms of musical direction.

...Grant & Jamie's sets look to push a new sound on the Auckland massive...

...This fresh take on Djing in Auckland


Nice marketing pitch Grant - I have to point out that the set-list above, while it might seem broad-range to you, is still hardly broad-range or eclectic. Where are the drum tracks? The acapellas? The old tunes re-edited? The obscure tunes?

The type of DJing I think you're referring to is how the best of the long-standing DJs (the American guys mainly) have always done it. (Levan, Hardy, Francous K, Pullen, May, Tenaglia, Angel Moraes etc).

To them it's just DJing - that's all they known - playing a mix of new stuff, different styles and oldies etc. If more could be like that clubbing would be a hell of a lot more fun every time you went out and crowds wouldn't be so fickle either.

Genres or specific song preferences aside do you spend time looking for any old tunes? Do you look on discogs on old comps by DJs you like/respect and seek out any of the tunes as a starting point for new avenues of material? It is one of the best ways to find amazing tunes which wont date (since hardly anyone else will have them)

Also - where is my CD? I thought you were sending me one? Razz

R
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RobW said:
Grant R said:
...a scene which is increasingly becoming uniform and stale in terms of musical direction.

...Grant & Jamie's sets look to push a new sound on the Auckland massive...

...This fresh take on Djing in Auckland


Nice marketing pitch Grant - I have to point out that the set-list above, while it might seem broad-range to you, is still hardly broad-range or eclectic. Where are the drum tracks? The acapellas? The old tunes re-edited? The obscure tunes?

The type of DJing I think you're referring to is how the best of the long-standing DJs (the American guys mainly) have always done it. (Levan, Hardy, Francous K, Pullen, May, Tenaglia, Angel Moraes etc).

To them it's just DJing - that's all they known - playing a mix of new stuff, different styles and oldies etc. If more could be like that clubbing would be a hell of a lot more fun every time you went out and crowds wouldn't be so fickle either.

Genres or specific song preferences aside do you spend time looking for any old tunes? Do you look on discogs on old comps by DJs you like/respect and seek out any of the tunes as a starting point for new avenues of material? It is one of the best ways to find amazing tunes which wont date (since hardly anyone else will have them)

Also - where is my CD? I thought you were sending me one? Razz

R


Hmmmm you say broad range and eclectic? I think you've taken us saying broad-range as meaning we'll play a prog tune, a techno tune, a house tune etc?

What we're aiming to do is find and play tunes that blur "genre-specific" boundaries, so it could be thought of as a progressive tune,and a techno tune, and a trance tune, if you get me. A capellas, samples and re-edits is something that we are working on, and in due time we will incorporate these into our sets. We're still learning though! And have plenty of time to do this (we are both 21)

We also want to shift the focus of Djing in Auckland, from stringing tune after tune together (which is prevalient in the mainstream scene), to the focus that each tune is a piece in the puzzle, or a step in a journey. I guess we're trying to bring an underground djing mentality to the mainstream.

The Djs you mention are interesting, because you are exactly right. But we don't see it in mainstream Auckland right now.

As for finding older tunes, yes, especially over the last few months, i've been going back, looking for older tunes. A good tune will always be a good tune Smile no matter how old it is!

And for the CD :p

We're goign to get some artwork and stuff done for it, so will have to wait for that. Please by all means download the mix if you want!
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Grant R said:


Hmmmm you say broad range and eclectic? I think you've taken us saying broad-range as meaning we'll play a prog tune, a techno tune, a house tune etc?

What we're aiming to do is find and play tunes that blur "genre-specific" boundaries, so it could be thought of as a progressive tune,and a techno tune, and a trance tune, if you get me. A capellas, samples and re-edits is something that we are working on, and in due time we will incorporate these into our sets. We're still learning though! And have plenty of time to do this (we are both 21)

We also want to shift the focus of Djing in Auckland, from stringing tune after tune together (which is prevalient in the mainstream scene), to the focus that each tune is a piece in the puzzle, or a step in a journey. I guess we're trying to bring an underground djing mentality to the mainstream.

The Djs you mention are interesting, because you are exactly right. But we don't see it in mainstream Auckland right now.

As for finding older tunes, yes, especially over the last few months, i've been going back, looking for older tunes. A good tune will always be a good tune Smile no matter how old it is!


Dont wanna burst your bubble Grant, but all of the half decent djs on this forum are doing exactly as you have just described, and have been for years. You wont have found a "progressive" style of djing in auckland mainstream ever really, but there are plenty of djs out there doing it. Still - keep it up, you may succeed where others have failed.... you did manage to get a gig at Asta after all Razz
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As I said, we're looking to take underground djing to the mainstream Smile hopefully it works!

The little blurb I wrote is for marketing to a mainstream audience, so I can see why it steps on the toes of people who've been doing what we want to do for a long time. Maybe I should re-word it

I think prog has a real chance to become popular again, especially the dirtier prog/prog electro. We're definitely at the beginning of a transition in whats popular in Auckland. I believe we'll see a shift away from the angry driving stabbing basslines of electro to favour melodic uplifting music.

We're also looking to start producing, hopefully we'll have a few decent tunes we can play in our sets this year Smile

Will be playing trouse sets at Spy this year when i'm down there, so there are possibilities to take it more mainstream.
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take it to the pro level i reckon
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kurt said:
take it to the pro level i reckon


One day....one day Very Happy
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Grant R said:
As I said, we're looking to take underground djing to the mainstream Smile


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Andrew_H said:
Grant R said:
As I said, we're looking to take underground djing to the mainstream Smile


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Maybe I should just shut the fuck up and do what everybody else is doing.

sweet. forget it.
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what you're describing and that setlist is hardly underground djing.....
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lol H

Looks like the top 10 on beatport to me Froggy



Pink Winky
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Yup I agree, alot of those tunes are beatport top 10.

I get alot of tunes from beatport, buy them, then they find their way into the top 10. Which sucks Sad
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Haha. Good tunes though Music
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Cheers. Cos thats all that matters in the end right Froggy
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Depends if you are pushing yourself as new and innovative or not Froggy
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Jared Knapp said:
Depends if you are pushing yourself as new and innovative or not Froggy


Froggy
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No offence JK but i prefer Rob W would have replied and said "Looks like last months beatport top 10"

People in nz consider you as someone who is on the very front of the trance scene... and the set lists I see of yours are never anything out of the ordinary. 101 Punchy uplifting trance.

same big name artists that i see and tunes i read about. and shit i dont even listen to trance.

Again no offence. I guess cause your at the top of it all soemone has to play the big tunes. Carry on.
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But wait. Seriously. Back to Grant R.

Im downloading your mix as we speak.

Can I just fairly comment though that underground is much more underground that that. Regardless if those tunes didnt make the top 50 on beatport. Pryda, Deadmau5, King Unique, etc. Thats not underground, its a bit more progressive than main room club house music and its just got an underground twist to it.

Im not going to tell you to play some ridiculous dancefloor unfriendly track before you become underground ... no no! Pls, play the music you love.

But to be fair let the music speak bro, not the words to describe what people are about to hear or have heard.
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Just be yourself dude and people will appreciate you for that. You dont have to describe how or where you are being innovative
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Grant R said:

We also want to shift the focus of Djing in Auckland, from stringing tune after tune together (which is prevalient in the mainstream scene), to the focus that each tune is a piece in the puzzle, or a step in a journey. I guess we're trying to bring an underground djing mentality to the mainstream.



I feel if i've been somewhat misunderstood. I don't mean underground by the tunes that I play, rather the style of djing.

But hey, enough of that. I'm going to shut my mouth and get back to the music. Because thats what really matters!

Music
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Grant R said:
Grant R said:

We also want to shift the focus of Djing in Auckland, from stringing tune after tune together (which is prevalient in the mainstream scene), to the focus that each tune is a piece in the puzzle, or a step in a journey. I guess we're trying to bring an underground djing mentality to the mainstream.



I feel if i've been somewhat misunderstood. I don't mean underground by the tunes that I play, rather the style of djing.

But hey, enough of that. I'm going to shut my mouth and get back to the music. Because thats what really matters!

Music


Apologies from myself and on behalf of anyone who skim read that part of your post.

Keep pushing your sound out there and adapting to dancefloors. Dont totally shut your mouth, just know of course in a lot of places the music does the talking best.

Download the mix peeps. You might know most of the tracks on it anyway.. but its a nice mix to enjoy on an evening or weeknight. Reminds me of putting on some of my in search of sunrise disc 1s to listen into.
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Its called underground for a reason, its not for the masses. Underground dj's don't care what the public want, or want to try and change a scene, they play what they want to whom will ever listen and if thats no one, they don't really give a f*%k.

If something becomes mainstrem it clearly is no longer underground. I'd hate to see prog go mainstream, because every wanker under the sun will start making bullshit music, and shit dj's will play it.

I think it's great that Grant is enthusiastic about what he's doing, it's always good have people wanting to build up the electronic music scene, and knocking him won't help anyone, however claiming to take underground to the masses, is not quite on the money I'm afraid.



Viva La 3rd Risistance
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your still my friend grant Very Happy lol

onto the next promo my friend! bigger and better!