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"Beware the leader who bangs the drums of war in order to whip the citizenary into a patriotic fervor,for patriotism is indeed a double-edged sword.It both emboldens the blood,just as it narrows the mind. And when the drums of war have reached a fever pitch and the blood boils with hate and the mind has closed,the leader will have no need in seizing the rights of the citizenry. Rather the citizenry, infused with fear and blinded by patriotism, will offer up all of their rights unto the leader and gladly so. How do I know?For this is what I have done. And I am Caesar"

"I will be your dictator".
- G.W.Bush

"...give me the minds of your children..."
Adolph Hitler



...And the World is being hijacked by terrorists who,
Disguised as the righteous,
Rule over us with lies and treason.

And the World is being hijacked by terrorists who,
Camouflaged in Red White and Blue,
Look like the businessmen and politicians,
We were trained to respect and admire.

And they call for us to be patriotic,
And give up our liberties and rights,
For the sake of crushing our enemies,
For the sake of democracy..so they say.

And the TV news broadcasters wave the flag,
As a few elite unreproachables
Buy the rights to enslave the world
With money siphoned from the human masses.

The billions of people who live on this globe
Are beginning to feel the crunch of treacherous scammers,
As the world is being hijacked by terrorists who,
Disguised as the righteous
Rule over us with lies and treason.....
Where has our government For the People, By the People gone?
Is it gone forever?

We must choose today for the children of tomorrow.
- Leo Genereux
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i would say "nice", but it's really quite horrible. still, one can but hope Smile
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I used to be really "patriotic" up until about eight months ago, when I realised that I share the same body geneology with the british, who fuct everyone over.

I used to be "proud" of being a "New Zealander" until I realised that being a New Zealander entails being subjected to British Propaganda on a daily basis and living that British governments MindSet.

I can't be fuct going on and on about why patriotism kills you, you get the point. It really is sad though, how many people are so proud of their "country' and would die to protect their "lifestyle".

Die to protect NWO's agenda is a sick thing. I highly recommend you check out this website www.trance-formation.com, which is where I got that poem from.

YOu can't buy this book at any bookstore in NZ, as it is a highly guarded book that wont be brought over the counter. I ordered it off the Internet and it has given me a further dose of educational medicine to again, wake me up from my trance. I understand that you can also order these books through various bookstores. Borders, on Queen Street is one.
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wow thats some deep shit babe..... u have obviously given it some thought....

i consider your remarks about the british empire.. and its invasive history... i agree with you to some respect... being part maori i do believe maori we generally fucked over with the treaty of waitangi...

i was in italy this time last year... studying and backpacking... i went to a place called anzio.. which is on the west coast 90 mins south of rome.. its a beautiful beach resort... which is why i went there.. but when i got there i found that it was also a huge battlefield.. where the allies landed in WW2... there was a massive american centery.. and 2 commonwealth cemeteries... i found the smaller one and went up to have a look... it was the most beautiful thing i have seen.. the cemetery was ontop of a hill overlooking the whole of anzio and the coastline.. it was truley beautiful, such a harmonic and peaceful resting site... i walked past all the graves... i said a karakia, i found only one grave of a nzer (but there were heaps more in the larger cemetery) i have the name written down somewhere and took a photo of the gravestone... he was 20 years old, from auckland, a pilot killed in action......... i was so humbled in seeing this.. i had a wee cry.. and wrote him a letter... which i left by his grave... i said that he should know that where he lies, is a place that beholds a huge amount of honour, a huge amount of respect and rememberance... for what he did, for what he died for and those of all his brothers who lay beside him... all was for a reason... and the result of that reason was testoment to my being there.. my privelege to visit him, we came from the same place, the same juorney and ended up in this land far far away from our homes. but we went for different reasons... his was his duty , mine was my choice... in doing his duty i was able to make that choice..

so anyway.. as much as i agree with you, i lvoe being a nzer, i dont see myself as being patriotic however, but i will always know my home, and love it too..

bubba
Smile
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I'm surprised you haven't killed yourself yet pixil if you dislike your genealogy that much. As for the fact that boook is highly guarded, bullshit. If it wasn't how come you can order it over the counter or through the internet. Little bit of reality to your conspiracy theory, the reason its not on the shelves is that bugger all people want to buy it so its not worth stocking it, shock horror. Rolling Eyes
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It cracks me up how the conspiracy theorists are always so sure they are ‘on to something’ that the only way they can rationalise the fact that no one believes or even gives a shit about their bizarre theories, is for them to honestly believe they are somehow being ‘censored’ or ‘suppressed’. All this completely regardless of the undeniable fact that they are quite freely writing about it, talking about it and even buying books about it. Moon
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Trapper, you belong to the Western World, don't you?

You are a Westerner to the bitter end. You drink Coke, you eat McDonalds, you Vote, when you get sick, you see a Western Medical Doctor. You believe that Science is not another theory but the absolute truth, You may have done a BA @ University. You support your favourite Rugby team, you take drugs, you drink Coffee, you watch Three News, your in an absolute trance.

Good for you. Heres a big "thumbs up" to you, for not seeking information outside your "mainstream world, and ridiculing anyone that does promote something that you know nothing about and do not wish to open yourself up too.
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Making assumptions about people like that is rather silly Pixil.

At least I can say that most of what trapper has posted on here has a factual backing, unlike some of the blatantly untrue stuff you have posted recently Wink
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harvey, it is pretty fucking obvious that everything that I said is an assumption, an assumption that was suppossed to be taken lightly, when I know NOTHING about trapper, outside his last couple of posts. You shouldn't take things so literally. I don't know if he drinks Coke or did a BA. It was suppossed to be taken LIGHTLY, purely because of that very fact.

so I have said some blatantly untrue stuff. Really! I assume you are referring to the Philadelphia Experiment/Montauk Experiment, yes? Or maybe you are referring to my cynical views on the Mainstream Media? Ha!
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Umm, I know its obvious that everything you were saying was an assumption. I just think its silly.

In a thread yesterday you said the following...

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Never questioning why all 42 presidents of the USA share the same blood type with the Royal Family in the UK.

Dunno where you got that from, but justahalf was able to verify from independant sources in a matter of a few minutes that that statement is wrong.
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And don't assume that everyone that disagrees with you on here only pays attention to the so called "mainstream" media. Most of us are reasonably intelligent and have looked at many topics of conversation from all sides and come to our own conclusions.
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I haven't assumed that everyone on biggie only listens to what the mainstream media telsl them. I have only assumed that, by what SOME people have said. Not ALL, but by a couple. Don't assume that I'm assuming that everyone listens to the mainstream media. Now you are assuming. Right?

I have through out my whole life heard that the Royal family only breeds through their own bloodline. (princess diana and charles) Gimme a few days and I will find the documentation to back up that fact. It intrigues me as much as it probably intrigues you, it is incredibly strange. RH- is the supposedely bloodtype. Suppossed to be the rarest blood type in the World too. I find it incredibly strange. Give me a couple of days and I will see how valid these apparent facts are.
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hey pixil theres a thread in dnb forum that needs your addressing, you didnt think we would all forget that easily did you?

the thread where pixil got owned, and never bothered replying to....

http://biggie.co.nz/forum/viewtopic.php?t=62475&start=100
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Hehe, brilliant. I hadn't seen that thread until now Danjah.
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I got "owned" did I, danjah? The post above my final post clearly stated that I had lost everything that I had written (computer crashing). It wasn't a "secret"; it was pretty obvious that the final post was a copy and paste.

So you repeat, that I got owned, but the reality is, I just realised that I shouldn't waste my time on a board talking to people who are predominantly Minion.

Whats a Minion you ask? Ever noticed how 65% of people have 'dead-eyes' like an Animal? ....
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pixil: you have some good points, but be careful, people will watch your everymove to shoot ya down. it's all about the score, you know, 1-0 or whatever Smile still, i hear where your coming from, and i wish more people did and weren't so concerned with the bullshit that sorrounds our sorry caged existence.
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shes a special gal...she really is Laughing
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where as you is a Mingion innit
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the thing is were only as caged as we want to be, to find freedom the possibilities are there, if we really want to seek them we can, but most of us want to live in this caged world, we want to be a part of society what we all say here are assumptions arguing points that are not that different. Trapper and I, I think are opposite sides of the spectrum but yet neither of US really wants war neither of US wants innocent people to die, we both want to live in peace and stability.

Pixil i think you might be surprised where alot of us get our information from. Both sides have propoganda and lies and neither side is right or wrong. Just be firm in your beliefs but be ready to accept others Smile Smile
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*looks in mirror*

Why Bob you have the Clarence's eyes.....
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Anyone else find it funny that someone with such a negative outlook on life is into dnb?
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no.

pix goes to about as much dnb gigs as i do trance gigs.
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bleh
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Food for thought, Pixil.
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Do you ever have happy thoughts, pixil?
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thepurplelollie said:
Do you ever have happy thoughts, pixil?


i would wonder that question about you tpl Laughing
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i think you spout a heap of crap pixil.
sad but true
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i should add also that nowhere on the net can i find a statement by Bush saying "i will be your dictator"
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I came into this forum, with one intention. That was, ONE person will think about what I have written and go do some Research and hopefully, change their life because of it.

I gave you all the option to email me if you want some links and ONE person did! YAY! As long as ONE person actually took the time to THINK, then it was worth me saying a couple of things.

How long are you going to all be in your Westernized Trance? When will you all wake up? When is enough, enough? And ppl say “Pixil is so cynical…does Pixil have happy thoughts?” Ha Ha! Moreover, I question, do you not question this Reality, that we live in? Do you just “go with the flow” and hope it all works out in the End. Sorry for the ‘Reality-Check’ but it is not ‘going to work out’ until enough people stop playing THEIR game and reclaim what is ours. OUR MINDS! (for better understanding of what I am saying, read below)

And danjah, I go to as much DnB gigs as you go to Trance (you really should check out those psychedelic trance gigs, they’re wicked)
You live in Wellington, so I am most interested in how you know how many Drum N Bass Gigs I go too. Please tell me that. It fascinates me. For the record, whenever I go to a gig, I do not feel the fuct up need to tell everyone on biggie that I went to a Drum N Bass Club at every interval. See, the thing is Danjah/Dennis, I actually do other things outside go to DnB gigs. Not like SOME people, I know!

And the person who stereotyped me, as a “drum n bass’ head for my cynical outlook. Get off the Ecstacy and have a look around.

Good Day, Danjah.


Social Behaviors of Psycho Behavioral Disorders

• Fluoridation of Water Supplies, Use of dental supplies and Fluoride Contamination of Food and environment
• Fluoridation chemical contamination of water supplies with arsenic and lead
• Fluoridated pharmaceuticals and anesthetics
• Maintenance of 19th Century vaccine paradigm sanctioning injection of foreign animal material and toxic biological substances into humans, bypassing the natural immunological system to create long-term disease and profit-making potential for pharmaceutical and medical industry
• Conduct of a Medical System with a focus on disease and health, as a profit-making enterprise and deliberate production of disease in society to achieve that end
• Aluminium contamination, aluminium cookware, aluminium toothpaste tubes, aluminium foil, etc
• Mercury amalgam dental fillings and other heavy metal fillings
• Deliberate use of toxic radiation on human subjects
• Deliberate use of toxic radiation on Human subjects
• Deliberate use of toxic chemotherapy drugs to eliminate undesirable elements in the population
• Deliberate overall production of general immune deficiency in the general population in order to induce disease, death and general mayhem
• Continuation of the practice of radical surgery and primitive medical methodology
• Use of toxic herbicides, pesticides, rodenticides, fungicides, miticides, insecticides, etc
• Use of Monosodium Glutamate
• Use of Aspartame (Nutrasweet), Saccarin and Artificial Sweeteners
• Use of Meat and Dairy Products
• Processed Foods and chemical additives
• General pharmaceuticals and toxic body-care products
• Petroleum based economy
• Electromagnetic pollution, microwave pollution and cellular telephones
• Television and Media Programming
• Use of Psycho-pharmaceuticals
• Dysfunctional belief systems reinforced through dysfunction media programming
• Dysfunctional Prussian-based Education System which avoids teaching children how to think
• Dysfunctional Darwinian-based biological sciences
• Suppression of energy and health alternatives in favour for genocidal status quo
• Maintenance of “elite’ vs. ‘non-elite’ Malthusian based system and population manipulation paradigms
• Maintenance on social systems focused on Materialism and distraction of the population instead of spiritual concerns, education and evolvement
• Deliberate planning, scheduling and production of human wars and conflict
• Deliberate historical production and financial support of extreme forms of national socialism and international socialism based on body-identification, ego-image aggrandizement, and psychological projection, precluding a development of a social system recognizing responsibility, self-control and evolution
• Suppression of knowledge about the Earth, it’s past and the nature of the Universe from the population
• Maintenance of a “health-system”, based on international slow-killing of the population for a profit
• Maintenance of a social system geared to keep the population in fear and in survival mode
• Continuing collusion of US federal government agencies with corporate agents of social disorder
• Maintenance of biological, chemical, electro-magnetic and psycho-behavioral warfare on the population at large
• Deliberate waste of natural environmental resources
• Deliberate pollution and destruction on the planetary environment
• Maintenance of sanctioned programmes authorized to conduct on military members
• Suppression and concealment of quantum based evolutionary paradigms of the general population
• Deliberate delivery of illicit drugs into Society, in order to destabilize the population, while at the same time, conducting a “War on Drugs” geared towards establishing more social control and elimination on undesirable elements
• Desirable acts of “state terrorism”, sanctioned by government agencies, periodically levied into the population, and establishment of higher levels of social control
• Continuation of biochemical warfare research and operational testing on the mass population under the guise of innocuous programmes
• Conduct of on-going Mind and behavioral control for the express purpose of manipulation and control of both individuals and the mass population
• Deliberate periodic release of biological weapons, in order to stimulate fear, disease and contribute towards population reduction mandates
• AND THE LIST GOES ON! DOCUMENTED RESEARCHS SUPPORTS ALL OF THIS. HAV E YOU HAD ENOUGH YET? OR ARE YOU GOING TO KEEP ON TAKING IT? OR ARE YOU GOING TO ‘JUST SAY NO’ AND FIND ANOTHER WAY?
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:bangs head against wall: Rolling Eyes

make urself a tinfoil hat pixil... it stops them reading your thoughts
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u don't think about it, do you toast. You just accept it, don't yah.

"it's not happening, it's not happening"

<---puts ear plugs in ears

"I can't hear you. I cn'at hear you"

"if I can't see it, its not there"

<---- closes eyes

you gotta open your eyes eventually, toasted. Sorry but you have too,
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theyre all coming to get you pixil!!! yuo have no chance to survive make yuor time Shocked Shocked Shocked
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"They" got us ages ago, Man. Been there, still doing that. The question is, toasted, how long do you want to have "them' fucking you up for?
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sorry to burst your bubble pixil but there is no global conspiracy... simply because no human is intelligent enough to pull one off.

your confused, foaming at the mouth tirade of oft unfounded, always vague jumbled half-truths reek of an uneducated, bitter contrarian with an inferiority complex desperately trying to boost herself above those around her through faux enlightenment and pseudointellectualism.
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Toasted said:
sorry to burst your bubble pixil but there is no global conspiracy... simply because no human is intelligent enough to pull one off.

your confused, foaming at the mouth tirade of oft unfounded, always vague jumbled half-truths reek of an uneducated, bitter contrarian with an inferiority complex desperately trying to boost herself above those around her through faux enlightenment and pseudointellectualism.


I can't remember your first name, so toasted at your will. Your lack of intelligence saddens me. Your lack of understanding clearly shows in that statement and you may spend the rest of your life, on biggie and not fillfulling the needs that you truly desire, because you have been conditioned to not think for YOURSELF, but instead follow the Crowd.

I must say, that what you just wrote about how you interpret my Intelligence, has completely boosted my ego that once more. The fact that you even bothered to make a judgement on my "intelligence" is enough me realise that I have one over you, because I simply don't give a fuck about you, to even bother thinking about how I interpret your perception on Reality. Cos your perception bores me.

YOu can't even answer the question, can you, would much rather down my Intelligence then recognise that the reason they put fluoride in our water isn't for our "teeth" it is to "shut us up and dumb us down" -- it is clear that you listened to the TV once again when it claimed that we must drink eight glasses of water

FOOL!
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uh huh.


THEYRE COMING FOR YOU PIXIL!!! YUO HAVE NO CHANCE TO SURVIVE!! IT IS ALREADY TOO LATE!!!111
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Jesus Pixil, calling people unintelligent or ill informed especially when you can't back up much of what you say with anything resembling a fact ain't gonna convince many people of your cause.
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btw

lol @ Pixil's use of capitals
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• Petroleum based economy
• Electromagnetic pollution, microwave pollution and cellular telephones
• Television and Media Programming

as just an example...

wtf are you on about? Is this to look clever or something? They aren't even complete statements of any kind. What is one supposed to say to them? Uh, yeah okay...

Oh I see: Social Behaviours of Psycho Behavioural Disorders (spelling corrected)
whatever that means, it doesn't make sense. You do... you do realise that don't you? I suppose I could extrapolate from that bad English what you're trying to say, which my guess is that long list is somehow evidence that we are all insane or something along those lines?

wasn't sure if I should post this, you seem to be getting a hard time from everyone else already... I suppose now you'll just conclude that I'm another one of the borg.
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Pixil said:

YOu can't even answer the question, can you, would much rather down my Intelligence then recognise that the reason they put fluoride in our water isn't for our "teeth" it is to "shut us up and dumb us down" -- it is clear that you listened to the TV once again when it claimed that we must drink eight glasses of water


You've obviously been drinking a lot of that fluoridaqted water pixil. Rolling Eyes Rolling Eyes

There is no point posting on here with the sort of inane, unintelligent bollocks you have been. I don't like criticising peoples intelligence but you have done so to me and many others, so as far as I'm concerned its game on. You come across as someone without the intellidence to reason. You simply take all the conspiracy theories as fact. I went quickly through your list and agree with some of the point and have considered most of them. Conspiracy theorists are useful people, but put the information in the hands of imbeciles and we produce people like you pixil. I note that the list above is another cut and paste without crediting the source and containing words you don't even know the meaning of.

Oh well, at least you prove one of your conspiracy theories correct

"Dysfunctional Prussian-based Educational System which avoids teaching children how to think"

And by the way, you DO fit the dnb stereotype.
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justahalf said:
And by the way, you DO fit the dnb stereotype.

heh come on jah there are tards in every genre

pixil got sledged into oblivion on dnb as well and ran into CA with her tail between her legs
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I'm not trying to have a go at dnb people toasted. I think the stereotypes are funny as they are usually so wrong. Its quite funny when they prove to be correct, like the unhappy dnb one in this case. Anyway, after saturday night I consider you a trance muppet now anyway. Laughing Laughing
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Pink Winky heh heh
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Is anyone here familiar with the "Magic Eye" puzzles?
To the average eye, it just looks like some basic pattern, but look a little harder, and you will see a picture of something, a little boy perhaps, or an animal.
This is also how the media works.
We are assaulted with images of what's "happening" in the world, but underneath is the real picture, the one they didn't want us to see.
All we have to do is use our Magic Eye. It's right in front of us.
Ever stop to think that maybe these "quotes" and so-forth that we see in the media, are tainted by emotions, beliefs, reputations ...
The world is comprised of billions of events, there is NO WAY the media can report everything important.
Only what they "think'' is important.
Open your eyes and mind and stop being mindless, media drones.
Look around.
I agree 100 percent with Pixil.
It's refreshing to see that someone hasn't been completely brainwashed.
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while a maybe a little 'extreme' I would not find any problems with Pixil's view of things.

A lot of truth there IMHO, or, at least some food for thought.


Maybe Pixil's detractors are just jaded and used to towing the line?
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crazedchick
Joined: 30 Jun 2003
Usergroups: None
Total posts: 1

...interesting that someone would become a new member and their very first post would be in this thread in Current Affairs backing up what Pixil said Wink
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oops - I'm sprung![/quote]
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Thats not the point TC. She comes on here critical of us being sheep who follow the mass media line when many of us don't. I have respect for people who think for themselves, pixil doesn't. She takes one side of the argument as fact and accuses those who don't as being ignorant. Hello, pot kettle black.
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Tony, I've always been one to say don't trust what you read solely from the herald, but fuck, its not because 'they' are trying to hide something from us. There is no 'they' and there is no conspiracy. There is just people, doing what they do to get on in the world and make their money. That is all.
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indeed

nobody's trying to control anything other than their bank balance Wink
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Smiley said:
Tony, I've always been one to say don't trust what you read solely from the herald, but fuck, its not because 'they' are trying to hide something from us. There is no 'they' and there is no conspiracy. There is just people, doing what they do to get on in the world and make their money. That is all.


Smilry, I don't think they are 'hiding' stuff - just not reporting it.
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justahalf said:
Thats not the point TC. She comes on here critical of us being sheep who follow the mass media line when many of us don't. I have respect for people who think for themselves, pixil doesn't. She takes one side of the argument as fact and accuses those who don't as being ignorant. Hello, pot kettle black.


I told you to get off the ecstacy, because you made the mistake of steretyping me, because I like DnB music, therefore, I instantly have a "cynical" outlook on Western Society, That is why your opinion doens't mean anything to me, because you said something that stupid. Now, I am sorry, but NOTHING is going to change, until more and more people start saying "I dont' want you to put fluoride in my Water anymore" Until ENOUGH people stop playing the corporate game of MONEY rules everything, then we are never going to reclaim what we lost many years ago, our MINDS! NOT our brains, but our Minds.

I never said that everyone on biggie doens't think for themselves, not once did I say that but yet you went along your merry way and assumed. What a fool! Now you all ASSUME that the only agenda involved is that the government wants to take your money (money that they introduced to you) and that is why you think that life is the way that it is. I am sorry that I have made a couple of you think abour your little paradise, that we call New Zealand. But the truth is, the paradise that the media presented us, is actually, fucking us up to such a high degree that it saddens me, how many people have become such media drones as crazed chic put it (I thought that magic eye post was fucing wicked btw)...Now, we don't know what the true agenda's are. Most of us don't know why they are putting fluoride in our water (and yes the amount of evidence to prove that it is dumbing our intellectualism is there) if anyone wants this evidence, then do what a couple of ppl have done and email for that piece of information.

We must start waking up and put an end to what has happened to us, because aslong as we stay asleep, then this madness will go on and on until...

I mean, there are many things that they're hiding from us. Things that I have only just started learning about over the past six months, I am not about to go into what that is on a messagebaord, because a lot of people arne't ready for what I have to tell them and show them. They're simply not ready for it, but you are ready to starting THINKING about how YOU have been manipulated. I have been manipulated, you have, we all have been fuct over, its jsut in all different ways, you know!

Can you NOT see how you ahve been fuct over? Do you really think that the World is just the way it is and it is just life and you will end up having three kids and a "hubby" and life will be perfect!

I mean, the amoutn of shit the governmetns have done to us is phenomenal but we let it happen. We let it get worse and worse and worse and we haven't taken our power back,.

I am not saying "lets change the world" because it is impossible to change the world. The only thing that youcan all change is YOURSELF and stop living your life for OTHER people but YOURSELF because it is your path and we don't all have to follow everyon else.

NZ is not the "nice place" that we have been presented with. It is enslaved by the Monarchy and it can not (like other countries) erradicate that enslavement. Which is why I am not patriotic because I can see that Western Society is just as, if not more worse then any EAstern Country and I'm pretty much over it.

Every fact I have said is from an incredibly valid source. If youwant the source, you email me. The ones who email me for the source, are the ones that are ready for that intense information. If you're not ready for the truth, don't email me for it. If you want to stay in your trance when you think that fluoride is good for your teeth, then I will not try and wake you up again.

So many things have been supressed from us, so many amazing things about what our Minds are capable of, and I beg to question, why would they want to dumb us down? What kind of fascinating information is there, that they don't want us to know?

Its a choice. I came in here with one intention and that was, to find atleast ONE person who wants to know just how deep the tunnel goes. ONE person asked for the information and I don't know if that person has made his or her connections yet. We will see. The "truth" is out there, but the problem is, the mainstream media gives us 15 % of the truth. and I am afraid that fifteen is nto good enough for me anymore. i want one hundred.
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post your single, all knowing source so we can discover the truth about the monarchy's conspiracy to enslave the world's population with fluorinated water!

btw it better not be another of your podunk astrology websites
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Pixil said:
Every fact I have said is from an incredibly valid source. If youwant the source, you email me. The ones who email me for the source, are the ones that are ready for that intense information. If you're not ready for the truth, don't email me for it.


Look, fuck off if thats how your gonna be. If your evidence can stand up, then post it, because noone wants to email you. It's not because they aren't ready, its because they dont want to email you. Fuck this 'not ready' shit. Last time I was told I wasn't ready to hear something was from some freak telling me I had an angry aura because I stood up to their bullshit about drugs and they didn't like it. Rather than obliterate me with some facts (which I can handle very nicely thank you very much), she fell back on 'your not ready' yeh right, your just a flake. A flake on e no less, she was. HELLO? But anyway back to you.
No actually, just fuck off. Unless your gonna post something of value.

Oh and moderator me better step in now and say "But please come again" Laughing
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maybe you should do a quick "net check" to find for yourself about what fluoride does to you, toasted.

You don't need my links, you know enough about the internet to find it for yourself.

As I said, I will only give the link to those that generally want to know. You don't want to know, toasted. Thus, I let you sleep.
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post your source Pixil

it's what this forum is for

nobody's gonna risk emailing some random and possibly getting spammed Smile
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Smiley has an angry aura, eh! How ironic that your alias is smiley HAHAHAHA. Maybe YOU do have an angry aura, which is why you are not ready for the truth, because you wouldn't be able to handle it, yes?

You want the truth about fluoride, mate.

*scratches head*

I'm surprised that you have been all so manipulated that you don't even KNOW such a fact. I have found that there are a lot of ppl that know about the truth about fluoride. Surprises me that none of yahs know. Again, stop listening to the T.V.

I can totally see what the little flake means by you having an "angry aura" HAHAHAH you need to chill, Bro.

Before I post the link, I will post the information about what fluoride is doing to you, just to see how you all react to the fact that the water isn't actually doing what the MEDIA told you, it would do.

brb, cos I have to type all of this, cos I can't copy and paste it cos it wont let me.
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why are you going on and on about fluoride anyway, Pixil...?

this is something we are all capable of independently researching.

hell no - we want links to support all your other claims too.

please post them here Smile
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Pixil said:
I have found that there are a lot of ppl that know about the truth about fluoride. Surprises me that none of yahs know. Again, stop listening to the T.V.


yawn... so fucking 60's paranoia its not funny. at least find something vaguely amusing to get indignant about like reptilian shapeshifting jew banker bloodline dynasties or something.

again, just stop. in general. if theres anything more insidious than a ill informed, wannabe media whore, then that has to be an ill informed media whore with a tedious mindset just ripe for any of that dubious us vs them shite floating about online.

seriously... it'll be all fucking psuedo-psycho herbal pyramid schemes and expensive weekend gene cleansing conferences soon if you're not careful.
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Cinik - great to see you post on here again.

Pixil - keep digging that hole.

you said "you made the mistake of steretyping me, because I like DnB music, therefore, I instantly have a "cynical" outlook on Western Society"

actually I said "I'm not trying to have a go at dnb people toasted. I think the stereotypes are funny as they are usually so wrong. Its quite funny when they prove to be correct, like the unhappy dnb one in this case"

I'm not stereotyping you at all, just laughing about you fitting the stereotype.

This sums it up - "Things that I have only just started learning about over the past six months" - try thinking about these things for 15 years like I have then I'll start listening to you.

My problem with your attitude is that anyone agrees with you hasn't thought about these things. Many of us have, myself included. I have a number of friends who are almost as extreme as you and I have heard the things you have to say many times, hence why I haven't emailed you for the info, I already know most of it. I have thought about it all, accepted some and rejected most of it after looking at both sides of the story. I applaud you looking for the real truth because as you say, mainstream media does not give it to us. But all you have done is replace one set of half truths with another.

Heres another example of you being wrong - "If you want to stay in your trance when you think that fluoride is good for your teeth" - well actually it is good for our teeth. That doesn't mean its a good idea to put it in the water supply or even in toothpaste, but it has been proven to be beneficial to our teeth.
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Cinik said:
reptilian shapeshifting jew banker bloodline dynasties


Laughing always on point cinik

u goin valve tonight? i cant quite be fucked.. might have to do teh student job search thing tomoro.. place opens @ 9:30! u down?
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harvey said:
crazedchick
Joined: 30 Jun 2003
Usergroups: None
Total posts: 1

...interesting that someone would become a new member and their very first post would be in this thread in Current Affairs backing up what Pixil said Wink



I replied because somebody have something interesting to say, and she has some valid points, harvey.
Do you really need justification for someone joining and replying to a post?
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I give you the facts, and it is up to YOU to go research it. As for the 42 Presidents, yes, they are all connected to the Monarchy. Whoever did some bullshit researcht eh other day, DO IT AGAIN!

Here is toasted, telling me how stupid I am, as I am just psuedo intellectual and I am a "wannabe intellectual" but yet, he has NO idea what fluoride does to him.

And I am the one who is stupid? So what else don't you know? HAHAHA

Behavioural effects on Fluorides on Mass Population

Copy right 1998-2003

Much research on the effects on fluorides on human physiology was done by the Mellon Institute, under contract with major corporations that produce fluoride. Because of the policies of Mellon, which does not allow the decades of research to be accessed by the public, except by express permission of thsose companies that contract with it, the data is not available to the public. However, there are literally thousands of scientific studies that list the effects of fluorides. There are no credible scientific studies that demonstrate that fluoride is safe to ingest. Studies which are paid for by companies who manufacture fluorides, products containing fluorides or have a vested interest in maintaining the status quo are invalid because of a conflict of interest. You can not trust the fox to guard the hen house.

Animal Studies that carry over to Human Expectation

Literally thousands of studies are available on the physiological effects on animals and humans. However, toxicity studies are chiefly carried out on animals. One of the immediate questions that arrises is the relevance on animal studies to humans. A 1995 study, Neurotoxcity of Sodium Fluoride on Rats {1} indicates that experience with other developmental neurotoxicants prompts expectations that changes in behavioral functions will be comparable among species, especially humans and Rats. {2} The reason that Rats appear to be used, rather then Mice is that Rats have a higher resistance to toxins and will not manifest symptoms as readily. Logic tells us that if Rats are affected, then the potential of human damage is atleast as great.

Human Considerations with Fluorides

Fluorides have been added to public water supplies for over 40 years. Even looking at the issue on a superficial level, dental fluorsis has been on the rise in the mass population since the 1960s. {3} is an indicator that the total amount of fluoride intake, including water fluoridation, is has been on a serious level for some time. Exposures to dietary fluoride easily exceed 100 million parts per million (toothpastes) which are packaged in alluminium tubes {4} contain 1000 to 1500 ppm fluoride {5}

Mouthrinses contain 230 – 900 ppm {6} Store-bought juices can contain 2.8 ppm fluoride {7} a fact that even the American Dental Association admits {8} However, biological effects are apparent at even lower levels {9} and fluorides are accumulative in the brain {10} with the effects of behavior related directly to plasma fluoride levels {11}

Thus, there are studies that directly contradict claims by proponents that fluorides do not pass the blood-brain barrier {12} which only reflect short-term situations. Fluorides are cumulative, and short-term studies are specifically in a weak attempt to circumvent biological data {13} Research indicates that agencies like the AMA and ADA were reasonably honest about the issue prior to 1945, before corporate pressure apparently told them to “get in line”


According to AMA on September 18, 1943. Fluorides are general protoplasmic poisons, with the capacity to modify the metabolism of cells by inhibiting certain enzymes. Sources of fluorine intoxication include drinking water containing 1ppm or more fluorine {14} Amazing, isn’t it? Even the ADA was honest back then, in October 1, 1944. when it said “drinking water containing as little as 1.22 ppm will cause developmental disturbances . . . we can not run the risk of producing such serious systemic disturbances. In light of our present knowledge of the chemistry of the subject, the potentialities of harm outweigh those for good {15} So since the properties of fluorides haven’t changed , and the nature of human physiology hasn’t changed, why do they maintain today that it causes “no harm”? Whats wrong with this picture? Since everything in Society flows from top-down, we can only assume that governmental agency pressure is the reason. In fact, that is precisely the case. But why would they want to do that?

Since acquisition of reports on the behavior effects of fluorides on the brain from US sources is quiet difficult, most of the reports (but not all) are from foreign research Chinese investigations have found that levels of fluoride in water from 3-1 ppm affect the nervous system directly without first causing physical deformations from skeletal fluorosis {16}

Experiments on Rats and Fluorides
In rats exposed to 100 ppm fluoride for six weeks, starting at the age of three months, fluoride levels increased in the medulla oblongata in both sexes, and in the hippocampus of females, the sex with significant behavioral disturbances [ 17 ].It is a matter of fact that the hippocampus is neurologically considered to be the "central processor" in the brain which integrates inputs from the environment, memory, and motivational stimuli to produce behavioral decisions and modify memory [ 18 ]. Humans are exposed to plasma levels of fluoride as high as those found in rat studies [ 19 ], and considering water and food products containing fluoride are given to babies and young children, it involves interruption of normal brain development [ 20 ] and subsequent interference in the way a human being perceives and is able to react to the environment.
Furthermore, generic behavioral pattern disruption as found in rat studies can be indicative of a potential for motor dysfunction, intelligence deficits and learning disabilities in humans [ 21 ]. As far as accumulation of fluorides in the brain is concerned, with rats it was found, in one case, that six weeks of consuming 75 and 100 ppm fluoride produced a higher plasma fluoride level than did 125 ppm [ 22 ]. So, long-term accumulation of low doses has a significant effect. The medical establishment knew this in 1944, because they specifically said that levels above 1ppm were dangerous. Why, then, was the "optimum level" for water fluoridation (never mind the higher levels in foods and juices) set at 1ppm? Why would the World Health Organization have a target of fluoridating water supplies planetwide by the year 2000? [ 23 ] Why does the Clinton administration push so hard to have the United States completely fluoridated by the year 2000? Why does Mexico add 250 mg of potassium fluoride to the salt consumed by the population? [ 24 ] Why in 1996 is the U.S. sending proponents of fluoridation to Scotland and England to help quell the justifiable concerns of the public, who are being termed "civil rights activists"?
More Human Studies
The Chinese have been a great souce of information on the effect of fluorides on the intelligence of children. A study done in 1995 by Li of 907 children demonstrated that "the IQ of children living in areas of fluorosis was lower than areas where there was no fluorosis"[ 25 ].
According to the Li study, "it appears that the influence of a fluoride environment on the development of intelligence may occur early in development, such as the stages of embryonic life or infancy, when the differentiation and growth of the nervous system is most rapid." [ 26 ]
Furthermore, "active and comprehensive measures should be taken to reduce the fluoride intake by the population." [ 27 ] If we are already getting an overdose from the environment, why do we need it added to the water? The practice, even in terms of simple logic, is no defensible in any shape, way or manner. Lastly, the Li study concludes with, "this suggests that developing brain tissues are sensitive to fluorides." [ 28 ]
Other Chinese studies support the work by Li [ 29 ]. Since fluoride levels in the body are cumulative, and fluoride intake lowers intelligence, the end result is a population with little ability to evolve. Since studies which claim that fluorides prevent cavities are contracted by parties with a conflict of interest, and there is no credible scientific evidence to suggest that it does [ 31 ]. One of the many reasons they can get away with this is because of the paradoxical effect of the effect of toxins on biological systems.
There is not a linear dose-response relationship [ 32 ]. What this means is that a small amount of fluoride concentration has a great effect. Orthodox media and science tells the public that a linear effect is the only observable phenomena. They're lying. As the total accumulation of fluorides is approaching a toxic level, we see all sorts of physiological phenomena in progress. Even gastrointestinal problems and acid-stomach is produced by fluoridated water [ 33 ].
Other Historical Factors
According to Senator Ambruster in his magnificent tome Treason's Peace - German Dyes and American Dupes (1947), one of the largest producers of fluorides as a hazardous waste by-product was the Aluminium Company of America (ALCOA), who had a 1931 agreement with I.G. Farben in Germany, as did Dow Chemical Company (1933) to restrict American production of materials vital to the U.S. war effort. Other companies such as Imperial Chemical Industries (ICI, England), DuPont, Standard Oil (Rockefeller, who contributed war materials and money to Hitler), American Cyanamid and Sterling-Winthrop-Bayer were Farben associates. Indictments were filed against several of these companies on January 30, 1941, covering conspiracy, but inside forces spent so much effort at softening up the Justice Department (which is still corrupt today) to prevent prosecution that by April 15, 1942, all the defendants pleaded nolo contendre ("oh, well, what if we did?") and paid fines of $25,000 each. It is also a fact that I.G. Farben itself was indicted, but the case never came to court. Some of Farben's leading subsidiaries in the U.S. were General Aniline and Film (GAF), American I.G., and Bayer, but it was their associate ALCOA which figured prominently in the introduction of fluoride wastes from aluminum production (difficult of dispose of), quickly joined by LCI (Florida) and other fertilizer industries who had fluoride by-products classified by the EPA as hazardous waste [ 39 ].
END NOTES:
[ 1 ] Neurotoxicology and Teratology, Vol 17, No,2, pp.169-177, "Neurotoxicity of Sodium Fluoride in Rats", Muellenix, Denbesten, Schunior, Kernan, 1995.
[ 2 ] Neurotoxicology and Teratology, Vol 12, pp.285-292, 1990, Francis et al, "Workshop on the qualitative and quantitative comparibility of human and animal developmental neurotoxicity: Summary and implications"; Neurotoxicology and Teratology, Vol 12, pp.261-267, Stanton et al, "Comparability of measures of developmental neurotoxicity in humans and laboratory animals", 1990
[ 3 ] Centers for Disease Control. Public Health Service Report on "fluoride risks". MMWR 40, No. RR-7, 1-8; 1991.
[ 4 ] In July 1993, a scientific study of the effect of fluoride on rats links behavior changes and brain damage with aluminum and fluoride. [ Varner, J.A. et al, "Chronic Aluminum Fluoride Administration: II. Selected Histological Observations" Neuroscience Research Communications, Vol 13 No.2, 1993, pp.99-104 ; Chase, M., "Rat Studies Link Brain Cell Damage with Aluminum and Fluoride in Water", Wall Street Journal, October 28, 1992.]
[ 5 ] Pediatric Dentisty, Vol 10, pp.185-188, 1988, Beltran et al, "Fluoride in toothpastes for children" ; Monographs of Oral Science, Vol 13, P.1-160, 1959, Whitford, G.M., "The metabolism and toxcity of fluoride."
[ 6 ] Monographs of Oral Science, Vol 13, P.1-160, 1959, Whitford, G.M., "The metabolism and toxcity of fluoride."
[ 7 ] A report surfaces that fluoride-containing pesticides on fruit increase human fluoride intake. Some juices contain 6.8 ppm fluoride. [Stannard, J.G., et al, "Fluoride levels and fluoride contamination of fruit juices", Journal of Clinical Pediatric Dentistry, Vol 16 No 1, 1991, pp.38-40 ; "Assessing Fluoride Concentration of Juices and Juice-Flavored Drinks", Journal of the American Dental Association, JADA Preview, 1996, Kiritsy et al.]
[ 8 ] Journal of the American Dental Association, Kiritsy et al, 1996, JADA Previews, "Assessing Fluoride Concentrations of Juices and Juice-Favored Drinks".
[ 9 ] Scientific information is published on the Paradoxical Effect of the biological effect of chemical toxins, in an article by Shatz et al. That is the response increases with time and then diminishes with even higher doses. In other words there is not a linear relationship between dose and effect. This means that there is no threshold below which fluorides and radiation, for example, are harmless. This also applies to the electromagnetic effects on human biology. [Shatz, A., et al, "The Occurrence and Importance of Paradoxical Concentration Effects on Biological Systems", Compost Science, Vol 5, p.22-30, Spring 1964 ; Shatz, A., "Low Level Fluoridation and Low-Level Radiation - Two Case Histories of Misconduct of Science", by A. Schatz, Ph.D, 1996]
[ 10 ] Neurotoxicology and Teratology, Vol 17, No,2, p.175, "Neurotoxicity of Sodium Fluoride in Rats", Muellenix, Denbesten, Schunior, Kernan, 1995.
[ 11 ] Ibid.
[ 12 ] American Journal of Physiology, Vol 236, F141-146, 1979, Pashley et al, "Short-term kinetics",1979.
[ 13 ] This rationale is also seen within the paradigm of vaccination, mercury amalgam,etc. See Matrix III Volume II, Leading Edge Research Group, P.O. Box 7530, Yelm, Washington 98597.
[ 14 ] Journal of the American Medical Association, September 18, 1943.
[ 15 ] Journal of the American Dental Association, Editorial, October 1, 1944.
[ 16 ] Chinese Journal of Endemiology, Vol 2. Pp.63-70, 1992, "The nervous systemic complications of chronic fluorosis", Ding, L.I. ; Hu, Y.H., et al, The Compilation of the First Conference on Neuropsychiatric Diseases in Xinjian, "Fluoride in cerebrospinal fluid of patients with fluorosis", pp86-88, 1982 ; Shung-Guan, C.M., et al, Chinese Journal of Internal Medicine, Vol 21, pp.217-219, 1982, "The non-skeletal lesions of endemic fluorosis", 1982.
[ 17 ] Neurotoxicology and Teratology, Vol 17, No,2, p.175, "Neurotoxicity of Sodium Fluoride in Rats", Muellenix, Denbesten, Schunior, Kernan, 1995.
[ 18 ] Neuroscience and Biobehavioral Review, Vol 16, pp.63-70, 1992, Delong G.R., "Autism, amnesia, hippocampus and learning.".
[ 19 ] Neurotoxicology and Teratology, Vol 17, No,2, p.176, "Neurotoxicity of Sodium Fluoride in Rats", Muellenix, Denbesten, Schunior, Kernan, 1995.
[ 20 ] Ibid.
[ 21 ] Ibid.
[ 22 ] Ibid.
[ 23 ] The WHO internet site and other documents establish this target. Also, the CDC Morbidity and Mortality Report on May 29, 1992 and the ADA News on January 3, 1994. The WHO also engages in international fluoride politics, intimidation and bribery. See Matrix III Vol II, p.307. The United States is the most medicated nation on earth. Now, who would want to medicate the "land of freedom"? Why is the fluoridation of aborigines and indian tribes so vital to governments? Many questions abound.
[ 24 ] Salt Fluoridation in Mexico, Dr. Lucila Pazoz Hernandez, National Coordinator of the Salt Fluoridation Program in Mexico. On May 27, 1991, Mexico became the seventh country in the world to adopt salt fluoridation as a "mass measure." The salt fluoridation program is also part of international commitments, such as the 1979 resolutions of the Pan American Health Organization.
[ 25 ] X.S.Li et al, Fluoride, Vol 26, No.4, pp.189-192, 1995, "Effect of Fluoride Exposure on Intelligence In Children". Presented to the 20th Conference of the International Society for Fluoride Research, Beijing, China, September 5-9, 1994.
[ 26 ] Ibid., p.191-192.
[ 27 [ Ibid., p. 192.
[ 28 ] Ibid.
[ 29 ] Guo, X.C., et al, "A preliminary exploration of IQ of 7-13 year-old pupils in a fluorosis area with contamination from burning coal", Chinese Journal of Control of Endemic Dieases, Vol 10, No.2, pp. 98-100, 1991 ; Qin, L.S. et al, "The Influence of drinking water fluoride on pupils IQ", Chinese Journal of Control of Epidemic Diseases, Vol 5. No.4, pp.203-204, 1990 ; Manual of Anti-Epidemic Fluorosis, Bureau of Anti-Epidemic Diseases, Ministry of Public Health, Harbin, 1989 ; Ha, H., et al, "The Influence of Fluoride on the Human Embryo", Chinese Journal of Control of Epidemic Diseases, Vol 4, pp.136-137, 1989 ; Du.L., et al, "The Influence of chronic fluorosis on the development of the brain of the Human Embryo", Journal of Fluorosis Research Communications, Vol 138, 1991. Source: The International Society for Fluoride Research, Auckland, New Zealand.
[ 31 ] In fact a 1992 study in Tucson, Arizona of 26,000 elementary school children found that the more fluoride a child consumes, the more cavities appear in the teeth. No wonder the ADA promotes it. The study was conducted by the University of Arizona, headed by professor emeritus Cornelius Steelink. It was also revealed that children living in a fluoridated community had 11 times more risk of fluorosis. Many studies with similar results abound
[ 32 ] Shatz, A., et al, "The Occurrence and Importance of Paradoxical Concentration Effects on Biological Systems", Compost Science, Vol 5, p.22-30, Spring 1964 ; Shatz, A., "Low Level Fluoridation and Low-Level Radiation - Two Case Histories of Misconduct of Science", by A. Schatz, Ph.D, Philadelphia, 1996
[ 33 ] Scientific report reveals the connection between fluorides and non-ulcer dyspepsia (epigastric pain after eating). [ Gupta, I.P., et al, "Fluoride as a Possible Etiological Factor in Non-Ulcer Dyspepsia", Journal of Gastroenterology and Hepatology, Vol 7, 1992, pp.355-356 ; also, Susheela, A.K., "Fluoride Ingestion and Its Correlation with Gastrointestinal Discomfort", Fluoride, Vol 25 No.1, 1992,pp.5-22] Note: Since fluorides are cumulative in the body, the general level in the population where large gastric problems arise may be occurring. Thus, the large marketing effort for "acid controllers" in the 1990's, which may also be covering up the prevalence of heliobacter pylori infection as well as approaching fluoride toxicity in the population.
[ 35 ] Ibid.
[ 36 ] Ibid.
[ 37 ] Ibid.
[ 38 ] Fluoridation, Jansen.
[ 39 ] Treason's Peace: German Dyes and American Dupes, Senator Howard W. Ambruster, Beechhurst Press, New York, 1947.
[ 40 ] Fluoridation, Isabel Jansen, R.N, Tri-State Press, 1990 ; The Greatest Fraud: Fluoridation, Philip R.N. Sutton, Karunda Pty, Ltd, Lorne, Australia, 1996 ; The Dickenson Statement: A Mind-Boggling Thesis, Ian E. Stephens, 1987.
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Sorry took so long to get that fluoride ting on to biggie. I didn't get home until late and I coudlnt' be fuct doing it last night.

My fun is over now, as I realise that a lot of yah's aren't suppossed to be awake. Can't have too many people awake, otherwise, we'd have no game, would we?

I mean, its a fucking Electronica messageboard, isn't it! Sorry to stereotype, but you're not the kind'a people that would know about such innocent information.

Go back to bed.

CU
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Toasted said:
Cinik said:
reptilian shapeshifting jew banker bloodline dynasties


Laughing always on point cinik

u goin valve tonight? i cant quite be fucked.. might have to do teh student job search thing tomoro.. place opens @ 9:30! u down?


why would you say that cinik is "on point" when you just perviously that there is no global conspiracy? Make up your mind.
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Pixil, please don't paste such large loads of crap in here, a URL link to your info is more than enough. Check the forum rules here: http://biggie.co.nz/forum/viewtopic.php?t=57888

thanks
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pixil said

"I give you the facts, and it is up to YOU to go research it. As for the 42 Presidents, yes, they are all connected to the Monarchy. Whoever did some bullshit researcht eh other day, DO IT AGAIN! " - we are all connected to the monarchy if you go back far enough. Anyway. You posted a fact, I refuted it with another link. You have yet to provide any info, instead you have changed what you originally stated. The status therefore is you are wrong and I'm right until you prove otherwise.

You prove what an imbecile you are with your other post. For about the tenth time people have read the rubbish you spout, and considered it. We just have a different opinion, mainly because we have thought about it and you haven't.
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Cinik said:

reptilian shapeshifting jew banker bloodline dynasties or something.


your giving it away man! Mad
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crazedchick said:
harvey said:
crazedchick
Joined: 30 Jun 2003
Usergroups: None
Total posts: 1

...interesting that someone would become a new member and their very first post would be in this thread in Current Affairs backing up what Pixil said Wink



I replied because somebody have something interesting to say, and she has some valid points, harvey.
Do you really need justification for someone joining and replying to a post?

You also posted within a very close timeframe to Pixil ...I think there's some sort of conspiracy here Wink
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harvey said:
You also posted within a very close timeframe to Pixil ...I think there's some sort of conspiracy here Wink


heh teh timeframe was 5 minutes with crazedchick logging out a minute after posting and pix loggin in and posting 5 mins later Rolling Eyes can u switch up teh troll status
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Pixil said:
Toasted said:
Cinik said:
reptilian shapeshifting jew banker bloodline dynasties


Laughing always on point cinik

quote:


why would you say that cinik is "on point" when you just perviously that there is no global conspiracy? Make up your mind.


er, if you cant grasp the simple fundamentals of sarcasm, then perhaps you should just give up posting altogether. it's utterly "fantastic" that you appear to be in the throes of some neo-conscious awakening malarkey, but, as many people have already kindly pointed out to you, so have a fuck load of other people. discrepencies in the running of things is hardly new or amazing. stop assuming you've cracked the fucking elusive code or you'll merely open yourself to more misinformation.

or just get fucked. having had the displeasure of seeing you go from a aimless bored internet addled teen to tryhard junglist to utterly naive cliched conspiracy theorist leads me to believe that you are simply one of those inane, vacuous people who give those of us with something resembling a rational, open minded nature such a hideous image problem by constantly speiling without thought beyond a few name drops and 'inspiring' quotes and exposes.

i guess i'll come back to biggie in 6 months and there'll be some new and improved intayleckshuul tangent for you to be running on, yeah?

Rolling Eyes
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sal0r said:
Cinik said:

reptilian shapeshifting jew banker bloodline dynasties or something.


your giving it away man! Mad


as long as we keep the secret handshakes low-key, they'll never take us down.

onwards and upwards to the utopia!
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angela said:
why are you going on and on about fluoride anyway, Pixil...?

this is something we are all capable of independently researching.

hell no - we want links to support all your other claims too.

please post them here Smile


sooooo Pixil -

what's with posting all that crap on the toxicity of fluoride ingestion then...?

like i said, this is something easily researched - i specifically suggested you post your links to the other claims you have made in this thread - yet you deliberately ignored a simple request for information and posted endlessly on only one assertion out of the many you have made here.

forget the fluoride would ya...i think you'll find most of us already bloody knew alright...?

i'll ask again - just post your links please.

otherwise it would appear you are unable to respond to other people, even when they ask you nicely.
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Toasted said:
harvey said:
You also posted within a very close timeframe to Pixil ...I think there's some sort of conspiracy here Wink


heh teh timeframe was 5 minutes with crazedchick logging out a minute after posting and pix loggin in and posting 5 mins later Rolling Eyes can u switch up teh troll status



oh man
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We could also determine if both logins are originating from the same IP.
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cinik u owned that .....! lol
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Fuck Man, there are some stupid ppl on this site. Some chic saying that she doens't know what fluoride does to her, and then claiming that she always knew that. fuckign hell! Drink more water, man! Drink Up!

As for crazedchic, I dare you to check her IP address and then check mine and then see if they match up. DO IT! especially when our writing styles are completely different.

I can't even be fuct typing anymore, it is clear that you are all in yoru own little worlds and no one is prepared to read books that Whitcoulls doens't subcribe. I promoted a book, it is one of the best books I have ever read and you all decided that you would disown it before you even bothered to open up to it. I don't promote a lot of things but this I did, and because of your clear ignorance and your inability to be truthful about what western society really is, you chose to dismiss everthing i said and proved to me why over the past two years of being a biggie member, why I never bothered posting in current affairs...because this is why.

big ups to the ppl who have a clue, the rest of yahs, go back to sleep.
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The first sentence is the most sensible you've posted on here. Have a look in the mirror and you'll see a perfect example.

Angela never said what you claimed wither. Like me she was expecting something about deliberate poisoning by flouridation etc to numb the minds of citizens, not some very old info about how flouride isn't very good for your system which we already knew.

The reason you never bothered posting in here is because its so obvious you would be owned by people with an ability to prove you wrong, something you are not prepared to open your mind to at all. Not once have you responded to anything with logic or reasoning, just more drivel.
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C'mon JAH,

why do you always get upset with people?

Crying or Very sad
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I don't TC, so you can just fuck right off. Froggy Froggy Froggy

I can't see the point in coming on a discussion forum unless people actually want to discuss things which pixil does not.
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crazedchick said:
Is anyone here familiar with the "Magic Eye" puzzles?
To the average eye, it just looks like some basic pattern, but look a little harder, and you will see a picture of something, a little boy perhaps, or an animal.
This is also how the media works.
We are assaulted with images of what's "happening" in the world, but underneath is the real picture, the one they didn't want us to see.
All we have to do is use our Magic Eye. It's right in front of us.
Ever stop to think that maybe these "quotes" and so-forth that we see in the media, are tainted by emotions, beliefs, reputations ...
The world is comprised of billions of events, there is NO WAY the media can report everything important.
Only what they "think'' is important.
Open your eyes and mind and stop being mindless, media drones.
Look around.
I agree 100 percent with Pixil.
It's refreshing to see that someone hasn't been completely brainwashed.


Um, for anyone who is not familiar with the way the optical systems in your brain work, the "magic eye" puzzles are a modern form of the stereogram, which works with the difference in your visual fields. Only a small part, much less than half, of your visual field is able to be viewed with both eyes. Stereograms worked by presenting slightly different pictures to each eye, creating the illusion of depth in our perception, The magic eye puzzles work on the same concepts, but we see the depth by converging our eyes. This in no way relates to the media, or to emotions, beleifs or reputations. It's simply an optical illusion. So, in summary, I don't know what you're on about and I'm not sure you do either.
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THe rest of this dross isn't even worth dignifying with a rebuttal.
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Pixil said:
it is clear that you are all in yoru own little worlds and no one is prepared to read books that Whitcoulls doens't subcribe.


er... who teh fuck buys books from whitcoulls? you, obviously. doing a little guilty projecting on the crew then? purchasing a few limited run social commentaries written by obsessives is hardly a bragging point.

Pixil said:
I promoted a book because of your clear ignorance and your inability to be truthful about what western society really is


im fairly sure that the majority of us have a reasonable - if somewhat differing 'sides' wise - view on the socio-political spectrum. the multi-nationals, oil, pharmacutical evils, sweatshop labour folk, military dictatorships, religious broohaha, sinister coverups...etc. we've been there.

your righteous assuming is your major example of ignorance and is undoubtedly symptomatic of your inability to process facts without letting petty prejudices and emotions and what is so obviously a desperate desire for inner truth in your own life take over. sad, innit?
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Has anyone been to the website that pixil linked to
http://www.trance-formation.com

All I can say after visiting it is OH MY FUCKING GOD!!

THE CIA WANTS TO CONTROL US WITH MINDRAYS!!!

THE NEW WORLD ORDER IS COMING!!

WOE WOE WOE!!

ffs pixil, PUT THE CRACK PIPE DOWN.
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Pixil said:
Fuck Man, there are some stupid ppl on this site. Some chic saying that she doens't know what fluoride does to her, and then claiming that she always knew that. fuckign hell! Drink more water, man! Drink Up!


Angela doesn't currently have internet access so cannot defend herself. As JaH says, she was prompting you to post something with a little more substance than information which is easily available to everyone, information which has been debated on national television and information which WE ALREADY FUCKING KNEW.
She was also attempting to call your bluff on some of the more dubious conspiracies which you posted, however, you haven't backed them up at all.
I'll admit it, you calling angela stupid really pushes it. I have never come across such an annoying dense idiot as yourself. You are not even a troll and thats the saddest thing. There is no point in arguing with such a complete moron as yourself.
You win the title of biggie's biggest nob. Congratulations.
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http://www.trance-formation.com

Laughing Laughing Laughing

l-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-me, ho.

http://www.davidicke.com

much more fun.
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Well if they wanted to mind control someone to use as a white house sex slave it doesn't say a lot for their techniques that they chose her. If they were that good they would have chosen someone a lot hotter. Smile Smile
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thepurplelollie said:


Um, for anyone who is not familiar with the way the optical systems in your brain work, the "magic eye" puzzles are a modern form of the stereogram, which works with the difference in your visual fields. Only a small part, much less than half, of your visual field is able to be viewed with both eyes. Stereograms worked by presenting slightly different pictures to each eye, creating the illusion of depth in our perception, The magic eye puzzles work on the same concepts, but we see the depth by converging our eyes..



Jesus Christ.

Never one to take things too literally, thepurplelollie.

And harvey, just because I agree with Pixil's stance on the mass media, we're the same person?!
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This is a forum for serious discussion of issues, so yes TPL did take it literally, like most of us did. Whats your point?
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justahalf said:
This is a forum for serious discussion of issues, so yes TPL did take it literally, like most of us did. Whats your point?


It wasn't obvious?
My point was that the mass media dont always tell us what is really going on. That's all.
No need to get all anal.
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Man, some people here have real issues about different points of view, so they dissect every single detail.
Can't we all just get along ?!
Maybe I hit a soft spot by saying "stop being such media drones".
That was a stupid thing to say, I know, because you arent ALL mindless media drones....I was more talking about ppl in general, not having a dig at peeps on biggie.
Anyway, I dont know why I keep replying to this damn thread!

Keep smiling Very Happy
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Rolling Eyes

I stopped reading hlaf way through the posts, it was pretty obvious what the jist of the discussion was...

I only really have two points.

Firstly:

The one thing that utterly infuriates me is that people assume that if you AGREE with particular media reports or so-and-so's speech you're a blind fool lapping up media crap and slipping nicely into the big conspiracy plan.

Has it ever occured to you that maybe some of us have weighed the various facts from all sources and come to their OWN conclusion which just doesn't happen to agree with yours?

For example... my father. I can't really go into detail about his job, but needless to say it is his JOB to understand world politics, foreign policy, strategic studies, military history, international law, etc... he has more qualifications than you can shake a stick at as well as first hand experience and has talked to many many others with wide ranges of first hand experience. I can absolutely without any doubt, guarantee my father knows more about world political situations at the moment than ANYONE posting in here. Yet he believes there is some truth in what countries like the US are doing (NOTE: I say "some"). I'm NOT saying he's right. BUT I am saying he is DEFINATELY not a blind fool eagerly lapping up western media and demanding death to arabs and more McDonalds in Afghanistan.

That's my first point.

My second.

One thing *I* know about is media. Anyone who thinks the media is a secret evil government tool is a total and complete moron. Governments don't own the media, businessmen do. Their sole desire is to sell a lot of newspapers. If there really was a global conspiracy the newspapers would print the story tomorrow. Why? Because they'd make shiteloads of money off it. The one thing guaranteed to sell newspapers is governments doing naughty things.

That's my second point.

wee-ooo wee-ooo
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fire_engine said:
Rolling Eyes
One thing *I* know about is media. Anyone who thinks the media is a secret evil government tool is a total and complete moron. Governments don't own the media, businessmen do. Their sole desire is to sell a lot of newspapers.


and business lobbys govt, and govt fucks free hookers and drinks free top shelf booze and takes jaunts here and there and then the spin kids justify it all to us by, oh, i dont know, blaming the jews or something... Mr. Green
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fire_engine said:
Rolling Eyes

For example... my father. I can't really go into detail about his job, but needless to say it is his JOB to understand world politics, foreign policy, strategic studies, military history, international law, etc... he has more qualifications than you can shake a stick at as well as first hand experience and has talked to many many others with wide ranges of first hand experience. I can absolutely without any doubt, guarantee my father knows more about world political situations at the moment than ANYONE posting in here. Yet he believes there is some truth in what countries like the US are doing (NOTE: I say "some"). I'm NOT saying he's right. BUT I am saying he is DEFINATELY not a blind fool eagerly lapping up western media and demanding death to arabs and more McDonalds in Afghanistan

wee-ooo wee-ooo


The New York Times, Washington Post, Los Angeles Times, NBC, CBS, Time, Life, Fortune, Business Week, US News & World Report ...
All were very closely edited by the Rockerfellers.
Who is to say this shit isn't still happening? Because your dad told you so?!
Ever stop to think the "sources" the media use are not telling us the full story? There is no chance they could be biased because their reputation/job/beliefs are on the line? Is this not possible?
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And I never said ALL the media is evil...that would be a generalisation.
Dont twist my words around to fit them to your argument.
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Remember the reaction when we were told the world wasn't flat, like a pancake...? Absolute ridicule.
Why cant people open their minds just a little, the tiniest bit even, and accept that there are TONS of things that are going on that the media dont show us.
It seems you all dont want to be labelled one of those crazy "conspiracy theorists" ...shit, people might think you have lost the plot.
A lot of people are too worried about their reputations to even consider ANYTHING that seems "out of the norm".
Lighten up !!
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NICE ONE BRUVVA! Crazedchic gives ppl the lowdown of the world.

Rothschilds and rockefeller group back again in full attack!

So who are the rothschilds and rockefellor familes? they are freemassons?

who are the freemassons?

What is the New World Order?

Why does the govt lie to us?

They ahve been around since the beginning of Human Time. Who are the freemassons....well I have seen it for myself, but that is for you to find out and realise what Earth really is all about, why the World is one big conspiracy of Silence, who the Media is, why poltics is bullshit

The fact that your father has evolved his life around "politics" and not "the truth" doesn't help yur argument.

tell me, what experiences has your father had??? I doubt it remotely comes close to the experiences that I have, in any shape or form. So you remain your little world when you think that the govt doesnt' lie and the media only wnats to sel products, and you dnot' question who owns the media and what those products do to your body. You dont' question any of it, cos the world is not a conspiracy, and there are no secrets and there are no lies and what the truth is, is what the media tells you. Yu don't research ancient mythology, you probably dont know anything about metaphysics, you think that the only agenda is MONEY and you probably think that Western Society is a good place to live in, where ppl are happy and no one ahs been raped spiritually.

You're dad knows more then I do, Man, You're dad has seen more then I have (if this was true, then you would not say the things that you just said) and you're dad is one bright little man.

...maybe it is time you start researching who the media is, who owns the media, who owns everything, how long these selective families have owned everyhthing (since the beggining of time) and then you will realise that there is a reason you are on Earth, and it wasn't actually to amke lots of mney.

Good shit crazedchic for pointing out a couple of facts. As I said, I am not going to present you with any facts, it is upp to YOU to research this, I have spent a long tiem researching this, and I am not about to make it easy for you all and have you get this info so easily, go research the true farce of our society yourself.

and cinik...you keep repeating over and over about reptilians. Have you seen them yourself or are you just fucking with this thread?
fire_engine said:
Rolling Eyes
The one thing that utterly infuriates me is that people assume that if you AGREE with particular media reports or so-and-so's speech you're a blind fool lapping up media crap and slipping nicely into the big conspiracy plan.

For example... my father. I can't really go into detail about his job, but needless to say it is his JOB to understand world politics, foreign policy, strategic studies, military history, international law, etc... he has more qualifications than you can shake a stick at as well as first hand experience and has talked to many many others with wide ranges of first hand experience. I can absolutely without any doubt, guarantee my father knows more about world political situations at the moment than ANYONE posting in here. Yet he believes there is some truth in what countries like the US are doing (NOTE: I say "some"). I'm NOT saying he's right. BUT I am saying he is DEFINATELY not a blind fool eagerly lapping up western media and demanding death to arabs and more McDonalds in Afghanistan.

That's my first point.

My second.

One thing *I* know about is media. Anyone who thinks the media is a secret evil government tool is a total and complete moron. Governments don't own the media, businessmen do. Their sole desire is to sell a lot of newspapers. If there really was a global conspiracy the newspapers would print the story tomorrow. Why? Because they'd make shiteloads of money off it. The one thing guaranteed to sell newspapers is governments doing naughty things.

That's my second point.

wee-ooo wee-ooo
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and just what the flying fuck did all that mean?

pixil - please, learn how to spell and punctuate if you're going to write endless nonsense.

"and cinik...you keep repeating over and over about reptilians. Have you seen them yourself or are you just fucking with this thread?"

as for that... well, www.davidicke.com i thought someone with your oh-so fabulous insights into our worlds sinister underbelly would be more than aware of the nefilim and lizard god breeding tales.

or are you still 'researching' the rothschilds connection with the learned elders of the protocols of zion and the nazi regime, or some similar, heard it all before conspiracy?

and this... " I doubt it remotely comes close to the experiences that I have, in any shape or form"

what experiences? what? electro convulsion therapy? a lobotomy perhaps?
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oh, and assuming you can win an argument by ignoring the points presented to you and then typing "you think" this and "you think" that is more than fucking lame.
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i think Pixil is Crazedchick

how could 2 people be so identically retarded ?